Duplicate list when adding books change wished for

[LadyKate]

Originally Posted by speakingtohe

Maybe we are adding books differently?
Both drag and drop and add books from folder in the add books menu give me a box with

The following 3 books .......

OK, Copy to Clipboard and Show Details buttons at the bottom.



Helen

Something is different. A drag and drop produces a popup with "Books with the same titles as the following exist in calibre. Select what books you want added anyway."
A list of the books with the "Already in calibre:" and dup title by author
followed by four buttons. OK, Select all, Select none and Cancel.
Hummm is there a setting that I missed seeing to be able to get the copy to clipboard and show details??

[speakingtohe]

Well that is just odd. I have been using calibre for several years and have never seen those messages AFAIK . To be sure I updated to the latest version and nope.

I am thinking perhaps you have a modified calibre by an outside source? If so perhaps download the real thing? Pretty sure you won't lose any fiuctionality and will gain a lot.


Helen

[theducks]

Originally Posted by speakingtohe

Well that is just odd. I have been using calibre for several years and have never seen those messages AFAIK . To be sure I updated to the latest version and nope.

I am thinking perhaps you have a modified calibre by an outside source? If so perhaps download the real thing? Pretty sure you won't lose any fiuctionality and will gain a lot.


Helen

This may have something to do with what Preferences:Adding Books: Automerge
is set at

[speakingtohe]

Originally Posted by theducks

This may have something to do with what Preferences:Adding Books: Automerge
is set at

Perhaps but I change that quite frequently. Do you get the

A list of the books with the "Already in calibre:" and dup title by author

That the OP does? I don't want to get these, just curious.

Helen

Edit: I tried all three options and I still don't see this behavior.

[theducks]

Originally Posted by speakingtohe

Perhaps but I change that quite frequently. Do you get the



That the OP does? I don't want to get these, just curious.

Helen

Edit: I tried all three options and I still don't see this behavior.

I mostly D&D to the main GUI. My setting is Ignore.
And I only see the list if I click the details button
(there is a Copy to clipboard there)

[BetterRed]

I get the message to which LadyKate is referring when I add a single book via drag/drop into book list or via Windows Send To into some of my libraries.

Example : I get it in my journals library because of the way I use Title and Author - Author is journal/periodical name, Title is issue identifier (most often its YYYY-MM). Providing the author (journal name) I'm adding isn't in the list in the Duplicate Found dialogue box, then in this context it doesn't bother me, I just hit enter to accept the duplicate.

See attachments for a) the message box to which LadyKate is referring, and b) the Add Books settings I use when adding journals issues.

I'm using 1.22.1 and its not modified

If I'm adding many books then I add them into a separate staging post library with different Add Books settings and usually via one of the Add books via directories, ... methods. Then I do any necessary corrections to fix title and author. Then I resolve duplicates via the Find Duplicates PI - both within the staging post library and between it and the target library, then I move groups of books into target library - but I don't do many bulk additions these days.

BR

[DoctorOhh]

Originally Posted by speakingtohe

Edit: I tried all three options and I still don't see this behavior.

If you have automerge checked in preferences you will not see the dialog described by the OP.

[speakingtohe]

Originally Posted by DoctorOhh

If you have automerge checked in preferences you will not see the dialog described by the OP.

Ahh it is the little checkbox then.

She should check the little box before the automerge. I always have it checked.

Thanks for solving that.

Helen

[BetterRed]

Originally Posted by speakingtohe

Ahh it is the little checkbox then.

She should check the little box before the automerge. I always have it checked.

Thanks for solving that.

Helen

@speakingtohe - the OP must also make a decision on the appropriate rule for what to do with duplicate formats - ignore, overwrite or create a duplicate book

I have a feeling that the OP wants to make that decision on a case by case basis - hence the request for a copy to clipboard. After pasting the clipboard into a note, the OP would hit Cancel. Then they can determine what do with each duplicate at a leisurely pace, probably by eyeballing them alongside the one that's in the library.

@LadyKate - submit an Enhancement request for the additional button at the calibre bugs site ==>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/calibre. At least then you'll get a yes/no from the man who owns the bag of buttons.

Is it a reasonable request? - IMO yes. Is it hard to do? - IMO probably not. Truth is, KG can probably do it in a fraction of the time its taken all of us to create this thread of two dozen posts

Originally Posted by William Shakespeare in Much Ado About Nothing

'I can see he's not in your good books,' said the messenger.
'No, and if he were I would burn my library.”

WS

BR

[speakingtohe]

Originally Posted by BetterRed

@speakingtohe - the OP must also make a decision on the appropriate rule for what to do with duplicate formats - ignore, overwrite or create a duplicate book

I have a feeling that the OP wants to make that decision on a case by case basis - hence the request for a copy to clipboard. After pasting the clipboard into a note, the OP would hit Cancel. Then they can determine what do with each duplicate at a leisurely pace, probably by eyeballing them alongside the one that's in the library.

@LadyKate - submit an Enhancement request for the additional button at the calibre bugs site ==>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/calibre. At least then you'll get a yes/no from the man who owns the bag of buttons.

Is it a reasonable request? - IMO yes. Is it hard to do? - IMO probably not. Truth is, KG can probably do it in a fraction of the time its taken all of us to create this thread of two dozen posts


BR

I think the op will be happy with the result of checking the automerge box in preferences>adding books and selecting the appropriate automerge selection. This will give her the option to copy to clipboard which she was asking for.

I am sure you are right that adding the button to the other dialogue is the way to go but IMO using automerge with it's 3 comprehensive options is a better way to add books. Maybe that is just me.

Helen

[unboggling]

I never merge books when adding, regardless of format.

I would prefer to see a copy to clipboard button there too. Just for the sake of consistency in all cases, because I never use the duplicate information when adding books either.

It's just easier for me to deal with an author's duplicates later while working with an author's books after the add, making any decisions myself about duplicate formats. Also I later catch any leakers with Find Duplicates against the entire library, as a periodic maintenance task.

For me having duplicate formats (or different filetype formats) each in a separate book record after the add makes them easier to deal with and keeps all my options open for choosing whichever format is best. Then all but the best format get trashed during processing for that author, leaving only one format per book record and only one book record per each title/author. Though this too is academic because I habitually add and eventually keep just one format per book, and usually do not add a book that I already have, except for a new format directly into formats box of preexisting wishlist empty book record or an edited format directly into formats box of relevant book record.

[speakingtohe]

Originally Posted by unboggling

I never merge books when adding, regardless of format.

I would prefer to see a copy to clipboard button there too. Just for the sake of consistency in all cases, because I never use the duplicate information when adding books either.

It's just easier for me to deal with an author's duplicates later while working with an author's books after the add, making any decisions myself about duplicate formats. Also I later catch any leakers with Find Duplicates against the entire library, as a periodic maintenance task.

For me having duplicate formats (or different filetype formats) each in a separate book record after the add makes them easier to deal with and keeps all my options open for choosing whichever format is best. Then all but the best format get trashed during processing for that author, leaving only one format per book record and only one book record per each title/author. Though this too is academic because I habitually add and eventually keep just one format per book, and usually do not add a book that I already have, except for a new format directly into formats box of preexisting wishlist empty book record or an edited format directly into formats box of relevant book record.

The automerge function has an option to create a duplicate record for each duplicate, with a copy to clipboard button. This is what I use when adding more than 10 books. One book I do it manually. In between as the mood takes me.

Helen

[unboggling]

Originally Posted by speakingtohe

The automerge function has an option to create a duplicate record for each duplicate, with a copy to clipboard button. This is what I use when adding more than 10 books. One book I do it manually. In between as the mood takes me.

Helen

With automerge checkbox checked, the option "Create new record for each duplicate format" only creates a new record if the formats are the same format type (for example EPUB and EPUB). But not if the formats are different types such as MOBI and EPUB. So if I have existing book record with just an EPUB, and then add a MOBI, this option will put the MOBI into the book record with the EPUB, which is what I don't want.

I want them in separate records to make it easier to compare the formats, by viewing each format: EPUB in calibre ebook Viewer, and MOBI in Viewer or in Kindle Previewer (depending on viewer setting in Behavior), just by double-clicking each book record. Separate records also allow more freedom to conduct multiple conversions from each different format type as input format, without messing around choosing input format on conversion input format menu and without getting confused about which output format is from which input format, then compare the two output formats against each other. Comparing formats like that is rare in my calibre usage but necessary sometimes. So I leave automerge turned off.

Guess its mostly personal inclination.

My point about the copy to clipboard button, is just that it is nice when things are consistent, and confusing when they're not.

-unb

[LadyKate]

I might be more willing to let the system make a separate record for all files added IF another column existed that put the CRC value of the added files.

It would be a quick check for true duplicates.

I am not going to want the system to add or merge titles I already have. I rate each book I check with a quality rating. I would not want a better quality book to be added to a record that has quality as UC lol

[speakingtohe]

Originally Posted by unboggling

With automerge checkbox checked, the option "Create new record for each duplicate format" only creates a new record if the formats are the same format type (for example EPUB and EPUB). But not if the formats are different types such as MOBI and EPUB. So if I have existing book record with just an EPUB, and then add a MOBI, this option will put the MOBI into the book record with the EPUB, which is what I don't want.

I want them in separate records to make it easier to compare the formats, by viewing each format: EPUB in calibre ebook Viewer, and MOBI in Viewer or in Kindle Previewer (depending on viewer setting in Behavior), just by double-clicking each book record. Separate records also allow more freedom to conduct multiple conversions from each different format type as input format, without messing around choosing input format on conversion input format menu and without getting confused about which output format is from which input format, then compare the two output formats against each other. Comparing formats like that is rare in my calibre usage but necessary sometimes. So I leave automerge turned off.

Guess its mostly personal inclination.

My point about the copy to clipboard button, is just that it is nice when things are consistent, and confusing when they're not.

-unb

Indeed as I said earlier it probably should be added.

And each to his own of course. I tried the unchecked automerge and it would make me crazy having to decide without seeing the book whether I wanted it overwritten or not. With it checked I can see what is a duplicate and check the clipboard items when all books are added. A creature of habit I guess.

Helen