New custom English dictionaries - Page 9

RobertJSawyer · 12-12-2013, 11:32 PM

Interesting! Just synched to do an update over-the-air from firmware 3.1.0 to 3.1.1 on my Aura HD -- and the update/synch did NOT overwrite the custom dictionaries I'd installed with the default ones!

davidfor · 12-12-2013, 11:40 PM

Did you do a sync after the update? The sync doesn't happen when there is new firmware. The update check happens before the sync. If there is an update, it is downloaded and the rest of the sync skipped.

RobertJSawyer · 12-15-2013, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by davidfor

Did you do a sync after the update? The sync doesn't happen when there is new firmware. The update check happens before the sync. If there is an update, it is downloaded and the rest of the sync skipped.

Ah, dang. You're right, as usual, Davidfor!

As soon as I did a synch after updating, I lot the custom dictionaries.

davidfor · 12-15-2013, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertJSawyer

Ah, dang. You're right, as usual, Davidfor!

Can you please tell my wife?

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As soon as I did a synch after updating, I lot the custom dictionaries.

I'll have a little play with the size in the database and the timestamps.

davidfor · 12-16-2013, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by davidfor

I'll have a little play with the size in the database and the timestamps.

I have had a play. It looks like they are basing it on the actual file details. I updated the file size in the database and tried various dates. All resulted in a download of the dictionary during the sync.

RobertJSawyer · 12-16-2013, 01:08 AM

Thanks for trying, Davidfor!

RobertJSawyer · 12-17-2013, 09:51 PM

An idea that did NOT work. In hopes of getting custom dictionaries to survive synching, I moved the two custom dictionaries I use, named dicthtml-de.zip and dicthtml-nl.zip (respectively, Webster's 1913 and WordNet) from Kobo's main on-device storage in folder \.kobo\dict to this folder on an Micro SD card: \koboExtStorage\dict

The custom dictionaries worked fine from that location (a folder created by Kobo) but upon running a synch, the default versions of the two files were copied to the main on-device folder \.kobo\dict and although the ones on the Micro SD card were left untouched, apparently the Kobo device gives precedence to files in main memory at \.kobo\dict, and the default versions were henceforth called up instead.

(Tested on an Aura HD under 3.1.1)

Oh, well.

emreka · 12-22-2013, 06:35 AM

This is very exciting however am I to understand that these two dictionaries were published in 1908 and 1913 respectively? If so, doesn't that mean they're quite outdated? I guess these are the only ones that are public domain.

Lucas Malor · 12-22-2013, 06:44 AM

Probably it will not work, but try to remove write permissions to dictionaries.

RobertJSawyer · 12-22-2013, 11:27 AM

Emreka, no the WordNet dictionary is quite recent, and is based on this database: http://wordnet.princeton.edu/

You can get the free Kobo version of the WordNet dictionary here; it works quite well:

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...2&postcount=87

tshering · 12-22-2013, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertJSawyer

As soon as I did a synch after updating, I lot the custom dictionaries.

Maybe I found something: The idea is to make the dictionary engine use dictionary files that are different from those the synch mechanism is replacing.

step 1: rename all (original and custom) dictionaries according to the following pattern: dicthtml.zip > micthtml.zip, dicthtml-fr.zip > micthtml-fr.zip

step 2: replace in libnickel.so.1.0.0 three occurrences of dicthtml by micthtml

The example data for step 2 in the spoiler is for FW 3.0.1

Spoiler:

I did this on my Touch and it worked. But of course, I did no long-term testing yet.
As always use this information at your own risk!

exachillus · 01-09-2014, 10:45 PM

Hi

Do Kobo`s latest firmwares support non html dictionaries? It is a hassle to get that marisa thing working with Penelope on windows.

thanks

Canuck_in_Japan · 03-15-2014, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertJSawyer

I've tried two tricks to keep my Kobo units from overwriting the custom dictionaries with the default versions (I have Wordnet installed as Deutsch and Webster's 1913 as Nederlands), but neither worked: I tried setting the files to read-only attributes, and I tried giving them file dates in the future (2014) so that the Kobo might think that these were more recent than the ones it would otherwise replace them with. But nothing seems to stop the damn overwriting of the custom dictionaries.

I hope we can get a solution to this. I had custom dictionaries installed on my Aura and Aura HD only to find the next day that they had changed back to kobo! Is the only solution to turn off wifi and never sync? I read on both readers so I need syncing.

arasyi · 03-15-2014, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Canuck_in_Japan

I hope we can get a solution to this. I had custom dictionaries installed on my Aura and Aura HD only to find the next day that they had changed back to kobo! Is the only solution to turn off wifi and never sync? I read on both readers so I need syncing.

Use KoboPatcher to replace the dictionary update url (in libnickel).

Geeky · 05-08-2014, 01:58 PM

Hi,

I'd like to ask if there is a way to check a dicthtml.zip file (created with penelope and marisa) for errors? I converted a stardict formated dictionary using both tools, but unfortunatelly the resulting file doesn't work on my Kobo Touch (firmware 3.3). I didn't get any error messages during convertion (and the debug output didn't indicate any problems either).

Thanks in advance.

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RobertJSawyer Guru Posts: 733 Karma: 3911762 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto Device: Kobo Libra 2, Clara 2E, and Clara HD; Kindle PaperWhite	Interesting! Just synched to do an update over-the-air from firmware 3.1.0 to 3.1.1 on my Aura HD -- and the update/synch did NOT overwrite the custom dictionaries I'd installed with the default ones!

12-12-2013, 11:40 PM	#122
davidfor Grand Sorcerer Posts: 24,905 Karma: 47303824 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Sydney, Australia Device: Kobo:Touch,Glo, AuraH2O, GloHD,AuraONE, ClaraHD, Libra H2O; tolinoepos	Did you do a sync after the update? The sync doesn't happen when there is new firmware. The update check happens before the sync. If there is an update, it is downloaded and the rest of the sync skipped.

12-16-2013, 01:08 AM	#126
RobertJSawyer Guru Posts: 733 Karma: 3911762 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto Device: Kobo Libra 2, Clara 2E, and Clara HD; Kindle PaperWhite	Thanks for trying, Davidfor!

12-17-2013, 09:51 PM	#127
RobertJSawyer Guru Posts: 733 Karma: 3911762 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto Device: Kobo Libra 2, Clara 2E, and Clara HD; Kindle PaperWhite	An idea that did NOT work. In hopes of getting custom dictionaries to survive synching, I moved the two custom dictionaries I use, named dicthtml-de.zip and dicthtml-nl.zip (respectively, Webster's 1913 and WordNet) from Kobo's main on-device storage in folder \.kobo\dict to this folder on an Micro SD card: \koboExtStorage\dict The custom dictionaries worked fine from that location (a folder created by Kobo) but upon running a synch, the default versions of the two files were copied to the main on-device folder \.kobo\dict and although the ones on the Micro SD card were left untouched, apparently the Kobo device gives precedence to files in main memory at \.kobo\dict, and the default versions were henceforth called up instead. (Tested on an Aura HD under 3.1.1) Oh, well.

12-22-2013, 06:35 AM	#128
emreka Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 1000 Join Date: Dec 2013 Device: Kobo Glo	This is very exciting however am I to understand that these two dictionaries were published in 1908 and 1913 respectively? If so, doesn't that mean they're quite outdated? I guess these are the only ones that are public domain.

12-22-2013, 06:44 AM	#129
Lucas Malor Pain in the arse Posts: 758 Karma: 77856 Join Date: Apr 2013 Device: Kobo Aura One, Kindle 4	Probably it will not work, but try to remove write permissions to dictionaries.

12-22-2013, 11:27 AM	#130
RobertJSawyer Guru Posts: 733 Karma: 3911762 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto Device: Kobo Libra 2, Clara 2E, and Clara HD; Kindle PaperWhite	Emreka, no the WordNet dictionary is quite recent, and is based on this database: http://wordnet.princeton.edu/ You can get the free Kobo version of the WordNet dictionary here; it works quite well: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...2&postcount=87

05-08-2014, 01:58 PM	#135
Geeky Enthusiast Posts: 37 Karma: 117728 Join Date: Oct 2011 Device: none	Hi, I'd like to ask if there is a way to check a dicthtml.zip file (created with penelope and marisa) for errors? I converted a stardict formated dictionary using both tools, but unfortunatelly the resulting file doesn't work on my Kobo Touch (firmware 3.3). I didn't get any error messages during convertion (and the debug output didn't indicate any problems either). Thanks in advance.