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Old 02-19-2018, 10:52 AM   #106
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I did just think of one that fits this welcoming requirement quite well:

Welcome to the New Leaf Book Club



If deemed necessary the opening post could go into more detail about what this thread is used for.
In truth, this is my favorite suggestion so far. I like "Welcome" as encouraging the new and/or curious to check out the thread.
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Old 02-19-2018, 05:40 PM   #107
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Well, it kept us entertained for a couple of days anyway!
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Old 02-19-2018, 06:02 PM   #108
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Well, it kept us entertained for a couple of days anyway!
Oh, I have no objection to changing it if people can agree on something! It would be nice if it included "Welcome"; that's all.
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Old 02-19-2018, 06:13 PM   #109
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Leave the title alone then, and just add something to the OP about general discussions.
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Old 02-20-2018, 10:30 AM   #111
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In the spirit of this being a general conversation thread for the NLBC, and better here than derail the theme-suggestion thread again, I'm pleased to say that I've finally worked out a few possibilities for when It's All Relative comes up for nominations.

But one of my possibilities does raise a concern: Mission by Patrick Tilley. It is a science-fiction tale that involves on the story of Christ (and also involves the nature of time, as per the theme).

Given the open nature of this forum, would it be better to avoid books with such strongly religious aspect? I have no wish to offend participants (but if people were not going to be offended this is an excellent book).
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Old 02-20-2018, 10:41 AM   #112
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In the spirit of this being a general conversation thread for the NLBC, and better here than derail the theme-suggestion thread again, I'm pleased to say that I've finally worked out a few possibilities for when It's All Relative comes up for nominations.

But one of my possibilities does raise a concern: Mission by Patrick Tilley. It is a science-fiction tale that involves on the story of Christ (and also involves the nature of time, as per the theme).

Given the open nature of this forum, would it be better to avoid books with such strongly religious aspect? I have no wish to offend participants (but if people were not going to be offended this is an excellent book).
Feel free. There's no reason people can't discuss a religious-themed book in the context of the book itself, history and society. I've no doubt everyone here can keep such a discussion impersonal.
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Old 02-20-2018, 11:38 AM   #113
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I think a strongly religious book will get into the realm of the P&R forum. Also, I feel that two things that cannot really be talked about without an argument of others getting pissed is politics and religion. I would so no tho that book.
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Old 02-20-2018, 11:46 AM   #114
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In the spirit of this being a general conversation thread for the NLBC, and better here than derail the theme-suggestion thread again, I'm pleased to say that I've finally worked out a few possibilities for when It's All Relative comes up for nominations.

But one of my possibilities does raise a concern: Mission by Patrick Tilley. It is a science-fiction tale that involves on the story of Christ (and also involves the nature of time, as per the theme).

Given the open nature of this forum, would it be better to avoid books with such strongly religious aspect? I have no wish to offend participants (but if people were not going to be offended this is an excellent book).
I'm with issybird on this -- you're more than welcome to nominate it, and if it is selected, we'll discuss the book without going into P&R territory. And certainly, anyone who doesn't find themselves able to keep the discussion 'clean' will simply not participate. But I think we're all adults here (or at least imitate them on the Internet ) so I think such a nomination is fine.
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Old 02-20-2018, 12:13 PM   #115
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Or, given the theme of the month, at least relatively clean.
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Old 02-20-2018, 12:59 PM   #116
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I glanced at the Amazon reviews, which seemed positive, and then at the Audible reviews, which were less so, and indicated content that seems rather offensive.

I am not suggesting that the book not be nominated, but I think there may be legitimate concerns.
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So, a comment on our theme for March, The Book Came First. This theme has had me diving into all sorts of books I either hadn't read at all, or hadn't read in years and years. What fun, and I've discovered all sorts of excellent books as a direct result.

One of the books I discovered was E. R. Braithwaite's To Sir With Love, on which the movie was based. And, for a change, the movie followed the book rather closely, with Sidney Poitier being a perfect fit for the Braithwaite character. I enjoyed the book enough to give it 5 stars on Goodreads, and it's got me wanting to read more by Braithwaite. Next up will be his Paid Servant, about his time after teaching when he worked as a social worker. A fascinating person. Worth a read!

ETA: It's also worth noting that Braithwaite was a diplomat to South Africa during Apartheid. His book about some of those experiences is titled: Honorary White. Title says it all, I suspect, but I'll be reading it when I finish Paid Servant.

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I glanced at the Amazon reviews, which seemed positive, and then at the Audible reviews, which were less so, and indicated content that seems rather offensive.

I am not suggesting that the book not be nominated, but I think there may be legitimate concerns.
Sometimes we need to be offended. I would never suggest not nominating (or voting for) a book simply because it might have some offensive content. But it is worth making note of. And I suspect it would have an impact on whether a book actually gets selected. That being said, I've found myself reading several books each of these last two months based on the nominations above and beyond the selected book. I'm hoping others are having the same experience.
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I like this one! Though I'm OK with us leaving the title alone, but adding a paragraph into the first post. IAC, as folks can see, I'm going to keep talking about what I'm reading when I think it's of general interest, and I really encourage others to join in. Let's talk about books! And not just the ones we actually select for everyone to read. For me, this new theme approach has done such a good job of driving discovery I want to extend that here. In both directions. I hope my posts will lead to others discovering an interest in the books I'm finding, but I also hope to find even more from what you're reading. So join in!
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Sometimes we need to be offended. I would never suggest not nominating (or voting for) a book simply because it might have some offensive content. But it is worth making note of. And I suspect it would have an impact on whether a book actually gets selected. That being said, I've found myself reading several books each of these last two months based on the nominations above and beyond the selected book. I'm hoping others are having the same experience.
True enough. I'm all for "offensive" when it means challenging set beliefs or expanding one's understanding. Since I haven't read this book, I don't know if that's what it does.

What I most wanted to point out, though, is the disconnect between the two sets of reviews, Amazon and Audible. When I skimmed Amazon, I thought, well, maybe I could make myself read this (remember I am not an SF reader); when I looked at Audible, my reaction was no way, even though I am not an organized-religion person.

That's my two cents. SF is already problematic for me, and adding an anti-religious bias (my impression) makes it a nonstarter. As I said, though, I don't have any desire to block a nomination; I may want to nominate something offensive and controversial myself at some point.
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