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Old 12-17-2014, 05:08 PM   #16
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Thanks. That makes sense, but in my transition from Sigil to Calibre editor, I was used to everything in black.
You did not think that Kovid would not try and improve on the feature set
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open, save as "ebook-original.epub", and update the main copy.
I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what you are telling me. File menu--> Open Book opens the recent folder to give me options for opening another file from the folder contents. I do not get a "save as" option when I click on Open Book, and there is no File menu option called "Open."

I have searched the Calibre User manual and can find nothing that addresses "save as" option. I am using Calibre 2.12. Is there a newer version?
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I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what you are telling me. File menu--> Open Book opens the recent folder to give me options for opening another file from the folder contents. I do not get a "save as" option when I click on Open Book, and there is no File menu option called "Open."

I have searched the Calibre User manual and can find nothing that addresses "save as" option. I am using Calibre 2.12. Is there a newer version?
Actually, it's directory, not folder.
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I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what you are telling me. File menu--> Open Book opens the recent folder to give me options for opening another file from the folder contents. I do not get a "save as" option when I click on Open Book, and there is no File menu option called "Open."

I have searched the Calibre User manual and can find nothing that addresses "save as" option. I am using Calibre 2.12. Is there a newer version?
Open the book however you please to begin your editing session.
Before you do anything, use the Save A Copy As option to save a backup.
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Actually, it's directory, not folder.
Sorry, I'm just dense. Does it matter if we call it a folder or a directory? It still contains the files I've been saving as various iterations of the book. And whatever it's called, it doesn't offer a "save as" option. I'll just continue using the Save a Copy option and closing the current file and opening the copy to do the work. I really do appreciate your effort to help me.
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Open the book however you please to begin your editing session.
Before you do anything, use the Save A Copy As option to save a backup.
Okay. That's pretty much what I've been doing, but then doing the editing in the copy. I guess that's bass ackwards, huh?
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Actually, it's directory, not folder.
Does it really contribute to the discussion, to nitpick about the precise technical jargon to use when describing a hierarchical filesystem structure?
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Okay. That's pretty much what I've been doing, but then doing the editing in the copy. I guess that's bass ackwards, huh?
Well, my way saves some extra clicks.
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Well, my way saves some extra clicks.
Absolutely. Thanks!!
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Save As works as the same as other applications such as Sigil, spreadsheets, text editors, image editors, you have to tell it where to save.
As Editor One points out, the calibre book editor has no Save As, it has Save and Save Copy.

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In the Calibre editor, there is no "Save as" choice. You either save or save a copy.
Many (most ?) other editing programs have Save and Save As.

But a few, eg Sigil and Notepad++, have Save, Save As and Save Copy

In those two editors the difference between Save As and Save Copy, is that after a Save As the file saved becomes the current file, whereas with a Save Copy the current file does not change.

After a calibre book editor Save Copy the current file does not change.

Obviously, Save saves the current file

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The point I was trying to make before
The typical Save as allows a format change (eg jpg->BMP)
Save a Copy only allow the same (current) format
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Does it really contribute to the discussion, to nitpick about the precise technical jargon to use when describing a hierarchical filesystem structure?
It helps the person using the incorrect term to use the correct term.

It's been a directory from the day directories were invented.. Just because the icon used in Windows looks like a folder doesn't make it any less of a directory.

Now to contribute to the topic of the thread.

The solution to the problem is to copy the eBook and then edit it. Then just save. You'll have a backup in case you need it.
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It helps the person using the incorrect term to use the correct term.

It's been a directory from the day directories were invented.. Just because the icon used in Windows looks like a folder doesn't make it any less of a directory.
It isn't just Windows, every OS does this.

The definitive explanation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct...older_metaphor

This conversation is a duplicate of this thread here: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=245813

Any further pedanticism, criticism, rebuttals, and miscellaneous fact-checking can continue there.

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Now to contribute to the topic of the thread.

The solution to the problem is to copy the eBook and then edit it. Then just save. You'll have a backup in case you need it.
Hallelujah we are on topic again.

Currently the OP was already doing precisely that. Upon my suggestion in post #20, doing it the other way around may prove to be a timesaver.
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It isn't just Windows, every OS does this.

The definitive explanation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct...older_metaphor
Yes, email programs and folders.. Perfect use for the term folders. But when it actually is a filesystem directory, then call it a directory because that is what it is.

Some good examples...

Calibre stores each eBook in a separate directory.
Collections on your Reader are folders
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