Do you misrepresent your address to buy ebooks? - Page 2

spindlegirl · 02-22-2012, 12:08 PM

I've never had to, being in Canada. But I can understand people who do. It would be a great opening line in a sitcom, "You're under arrest for suspicion of sending money to a book store out of your zone."

pidgeon92 · 02-22-2012, 12:09 PM

I haven't done it, but I personally don't think it's wrong.

calibrated · 02-22-2012, 01:03 PM

I'd do it if I had to in order to buy something, but I haven't needed to yet. The closest I ever came was when I was trying to buy an e-book from the UK that isn't yet available here. Fortunately, I found a legitimate source elsewhere in the world that was willing to sell it to me.

crossi · 02-22-2012, 04:09 PM

I would If I knew how. I don't see how it could be wrong. The publisher and author are getting the money they demand. The physical publisher here isn't going to lose a paper sale because I alread have the paper version and am not going to buy another. If they wanted to sell an ebook version they would, apparently they don't want to sell one. It's no different than going on vacation and buying a book while travelling.

ATDrake · 02-22-2012, 04:25 PM

Very rarely for paid purchases, and only for things which are not only not available normally in my region, but also for a very good price and something I'd truly like to have.

I otherwise prefer to have my official purchasing stats show that Canadians like and appreciate low-cost deals made available to us.

I don't think I'd bother to do it for a merely somewhat lower regular cost on something, or for a hypothetically broadened selection. And I know I've passed on rather good deals in the US stores on stuff that I'd have been pleased to purchase if it had been made openly available to Canadians for the same price, but I can live without because I don't really need to own an e-edition and the library probably has a copy anyway.

I think I've done it for a total of 7 books out of the literally hundreds I've actually spent real money for.

Of course, it helps that I get mostly non-Agency books (or books that are non-Agency for Canadian purchasing purchases) and can use Kobo discount coupons, and that the selection in Canada is generally already fairly good, and that I live in an area with readily accessible well-stocked libraries and have no physical difficulties reading paper-printed versions of books.

bevdeforges · 02-22-2012, 04:28 PM

Don't do it for EVERY purchase, but given the ever dwindling number of e-booksellers who can or will sell to anyone outside their home country, it's practically a necessity for those of us living in a non-English speaking country if we want access to English language reading material.

caleb72 · 02-22-2012, 04:51 PM

I don't know how to. I might if I did. I really hate geo restrictions.

alecE · 02-22-2012, 05:18 PM

I haven't needed to (yet); if & when I feel I've just *got* to, then I will - not supporting an outmoded distribution system won't be an ethical hurdle for me.

sandyjunebug · 02-22-2012, 06:25 PM

Its of no use, you cannot purchase an ebook or MP3 from the US site for a Canadian IP address, they know where you are. However you can buy the same paper book or cd. Does not seem right.

JSWolf · 02-22-2012, 06:34 PM

How do you fake your address when the address you put in has to match the address the credit card is registered with?

HarleyB · 02-22-2012, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caleb72

I don't know how to. I might if I did. I really hate geo restrictions.

Exactly.

melmac · 02-22-2012, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

How do you fake your address when the address you put in has to match the address the credit card is registered with?

I must say I was very shocked that most places do not match the credit card address's I really thought that they would. Both the Sony store and Barnes & Noble allow my Australian credit card which is an Amex with an Australian Bank to be used even though in my account I have listed that I'm from Alaska. I thought that the bank would reject the charges but they don't I suppose they just check that the name/number and expiry is correct.

caleb72 · 02-22-2012, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melmac

I must say I was very shocked that most places do not match the credit card address's I really thought that they would. Both the Sony store and Barnes & Noble allow my Australian credit card which is an Amex with an Australian Bank to be used even though in my account I have listed that I'm from Alaska. I thought that the bank would reject the charges but they don't I suppose they just check that the name/number and expiry is correct.

Interesting news if I want to use the Barnes & Noble store. Thanks for that.

melmac · 02-22-2012, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caleb72

Interesting news if I want to use the Barnes & Noble store. Thanks for that.

Note B&N used to check IPs so I use a free IP blocker for them, I think perhaps that they changed their processes a while back and don't do that check anymore but I still use the blocker just in case.

Also as with anywhere where you are not truthful in your account you must free your books as soon as you purchase them as the day may come when you get locked out.

sabredog · 02-22-2012, 09:02 PM

When necessary.

It is the only way for me to avoid geographical restrictions. The alternative to that stupid restrictive practice of control is a darknet visit.

I would much rather pay the author by buying the ebook.

View Poll Results: Do you misrepresent your address to buy ebooks?
Yes, for every purchase	6	4.72%
Yes, when the ebook is not available in my country	38	29.92%
Yes, to get a better price	10	7.87%
No, I've never needed to, but would if necessary	65	51.18%
No, I feel this is wrong	15	11.81%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 127. You may not vote on this poll

02-22-2012, 04:09 PM	#19
crossi Guru Posts: 992 Karma: 12000001 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Seattle Wahington U.S. Device: kindle	I would If I knew how. I don't see how it could be wrong. The publisher and author are getting the money they demand. The physical publisher here isn't going to lose a paper sale because I alread have the paper version and am not going to buy another. If they wanted to sell an ebook version they would, apparently they don't want to sell one. It's no different than going on vacation and buying a book while travelling. Last edited by crossi; 02-22-2012 at 04:13 PM.

02-22-2012, 09:02 PM	#30
sabredog Geographically Restricted Posts: 2,629 Karma: 14933353 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Perth, Australia Device: Sony PRS-T3, Kindle Voyage, iPad Air2, Nexus7v2	When necessary. It is the only way for me to avoid geographical restrictions. The alternative to that stupid restrictive practice of control is a darknet visit. I would much rather pay the author by buying the ebook. Last edited by sabredog; 02-22-2012 at 09:05 PM.

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02-22-2012, 12:08 PM	#16
spindlegirl Wizard Posts: 1,594 Karma: 21245891 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Canada Device: Kobo Libra h20, Paperwhite 2017, Phone & Tablet w Moonreader	I've never had to, being in Canada. But I can understand people who do. It would be a great opening line in a sitcom, "You're under arrest for suspicion of sending money to a book store out of your zone."

02-22-2012, 12:09 PM	#17
pidgeon92 Wizard Posts: 3,144 Karma: 8426142 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Chicago, IL Device: Kindle PW2, Kindle Voyage, Kindle DXG, Boox M90, Kobo Aura HD	I haven't done it, but I personally don't think it's wrong.

02-22-2012, 01:03 PM	#18
calibrated Zealot Posts: 132 Karma: 179412 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: Kindle 1, Kindle 3, Kindle Fire w/Aldiko	I'd do it if I had to in order to buy something, but I haven't needed to yet. The closest I ever came was when I was trying to buy an e-book from the UK that isn't yet available here. Fortunately, I found a legitimate source elsewhere in the world that was willing to sell it to me.

02-22-2012, 04:25 PM	#20
ATDrake Wizzard Posts: 11,517 Karma: 33048258 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Roundworld Device: Kindle 2 International, Sony PRS-T1, BlackBerry PlayBook, Acer Iconia	Very rarely for paid purchases, and only for things which are not only not available normally in my region, but also for a very good price and something I'd truly like to have. I otherwise prefer to have my official purchasing stats show that Canadians like and appreciate low-cost deals made available to us. I don't think I'd bother to do it for a merely somewhat lower regular cost on something, or for a hypothetically broadened selection. And I know I've passed on rather good deals in the US stores on stuff that I'd have been pleased to purchase if it had been made openly available to Canadians for the same price, but I can live without because I don't really need to own an e-edition and the library probably has a copy anyway. I think I've done it for a total of 7 books out of the literally hundreds I've actually spent real money for. Of course, it helps that I get mostly non-Agency books (or books that are non-Agency for Canadian purchasing purchases) and can use Kobo discount coupons, and that the selection in Canada is generally already fairly good, and that I live in an area with readily accessible well-stocked libraries and have no physical difficulties reading paper-printed versions of books.

02-22-2012, 04:28 PM	#21
bevdeforges Addict Posts: 288 Karma: 1094000 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Essonne, France Device: Kobo Forma; Sony PRS600B; Sony 350; Sony T-2	Don't do it for EVERY purchase, but given the ever dwindling number of e-booksellers who can or will sell to anyone outside their home country, it's practically a necessity for those of us living in a non-English speaking country if we want access to English language reading material.

02-22-2012, 04:51 PM	#22
caleb72 Indie Advocate Posts: 2,863 Karma: 18794463 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Melbourne, Australia Device: Kindle	I don't know how to. I might if I did. I really hate geo restrictions.

02-22-2012, 05:18 PM	#23
alecE Evangelist Posts: 412 Karma: 546196 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: UK canal boat Device: sony prs505, prs650, kobo Glo HD liseuses	I haven't needed to (yet); if & when I feel I've just got to, then I will - not supporting an outmoded distribution system won't be an ethical hurdle for me.

02-22-2012, 06:25 PM	#24
sandyjunebug Member Posts: 11 Karma: 642 Join Date: Feb 2011 Device: Sony Touch 600	Its of no use, you cannot purchase an ebook or MP3 from the US site for a Canadian IP address, they know where you are. However you can buy the same paper book or cd. Does not seem right.

02-22-2012, 06:34 PM	#25
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 74,037 Karma: 129333114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	How do you fake your address when the address you put in has to match the address the credit card is registered with?

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