12-28-2019, 03:40 PM | #16 |
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I actually want my books look the same way too, only I use Calibre for that. And yes, any publisher attempts to create different layouts get removed, without exception. I'm rather OCD in that regard.
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12-28-2019, 03:47 PM | #17 | |
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12-28-2019, 04:05 PM | #18 | |
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One of my test ebooks when I was looking at the apps on the Samsung tablet was a book of poetry. The Pocketbook app was the only one that did a decent job of rendering the mass of indents and un-dents used. With Moon+ even when I enabled publisher CSS, the page layout was, being gentle, a fornicating mess. I will admit that nothing rendered the spiral last line of one poem as it is in the dead book edition. I've attached a sample image to show what I meant by a spiral line (this is a dummy sample from TikZ/TeX). |
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12-28-2019, 04:06 PM | #19 | |
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But that's not really what I'm talking about. By "simplicity" I mean a clean, one use device, where I can download a book and just start reading. Choice is good. Personally I choose simplicity and affordability (and long battery life). But, for those who want something else, an Android eInk eReader is the choice they make. It's all good. One size doesn't fit all. |
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12-29-2019, 11:45 AM | #20 |
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Android makes sense for a phone or tablet. It's a lazy way for a maker to produce a dedicated eink reader as a more standard Linux makes more sense. The reasons for android:
1) The VM for the Apps, which are essentially really Java. 2) The Android GUI 3) The Google Playstore. 4) Almost no expertise required in house. Items 1 & 2 were why Google bought in Android rather than using Linux. Sony's switch to Android from Linux did nothing to save their eReader and was likely political, not engineering based. The T1 was buggier than the earlier PRS350. I've not looked at the time line of that vs their Sony Ericsson Android phones. Sony also switched TVs from their own GUI on Linux to Android TV, which is inferior, possibly simply for the data harvesting to Google, Samba and themselves. |
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12-29-2019, 12:15 PM | #22 | |
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I agree with FrustratedReader in everything, except for
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Given that plain "c/c++/whatever fast compiled language" apps run inside the VM using the NativeActivity framework and invokation of native methods is done with JNI, which adds some overhead, there's usually no gain in building "c/c++" apps for android. Which makes android really bad for single use devices is the kind of services that run everywhere and are intended to abstract certain things for easy development and the constraints Google makes. Can be workarounded?: yeah. BarnesAndNobles and Rakuten/Tolinos seem to do a good job creating a AOSP based os that's not bloated. In the end if you start by debloating android you'll end with a plain linux distribution. That and talk to the linux framebuffer directly makes sense for an e-ink reader app. But using the android view hierarchy, with its WindowManager, its SurfaceFlinger and dadada adds little overhead to that. |
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12-29-2019, 12:23 PM | #23 |
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and i want to repeat. if you buy kobo you need to spend too much effort doing all of this which i say done easy.
if you want go latest patch thread https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=310315 and try to understand what you need to do for changing only default serif font. i am getting mad when i see this. year almost 2020. how people accept and praise this really i cant understand. |
12-29-2019, 01:14 PM | #24 | |
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12-29-2019, 01:16 PM | #25 | |
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12-29-2019, 02:53 PM | #26 | |
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12-30-2019, 05:27 AM | #27 |
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because first, if there is non logical thing it hurts my logic. second someone's sake effects other ones.
look, charged means either charged an electronic device or paying money for anything else and teher is different words in turkish for this. they use wrong word for their interface translation. think about that they use google translate for translation they change main screen layout an this is not for improve user experience. they limit the recent books section and add suggestion books section from their book store. because they dont care is main screen useful, they care how many they can sell. same way, they dont care is user can set easily epub layout margins typography etc. they dont care is pdf readable on device. Because they dont want sideload books, they want sell books from their bookstore with .kobo extension. |
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That leaves me with ePub or Mobi books (basically novels). All I care about is that I have a dark font and good margins. And all my eReaders can provide me with that. So I'm good with what I have. Again, dedicated eReaders have advantages over a more general purpose eInk Android tablet. If you like your eInk Android tablet, I'm happy for you. I'm happy with my Tolinos, Kobos, Kindles, etc. To each their own. Should I be angry that you don't choose the way I choose? Again there's no "one size fits all" in eReaders. |
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12-30-2019, 11:25 AM | #29 |
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Open Android e-readers more customizable than a conventional single-UI e-readers (be it Linux or android-based). Plus you can do a lot of other things with open Android reader. The down-side is the battery. Also if you're locked into one retailer, the native UI cannot be beaten in a conventional e-reader.
Each to their own. I see the value in and own both types. For example, I use a Nook glowlight 3, but the Nook UI doesn't allow collections and doesn't offer an inverted night-mode screen. So I run Koreader under Android. The downside is the battery life. If I travel, I take a PW2, though it's jailbreaked and runs Koreader. Last edited by Pajamaman; 12-30-2019 at 11:28 AM. |
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But, I am a little surprised that there is an issue with the Turkish translation. My understanding was that it was added when they did a deal with a Turkish ebook store. I would have expected they were involved in the translation. Quote:
But, the latest version of the Kobo home screen is in response to the customers complaints. While lots of people, including me, loved the previous home screen, a lot of people found it confusing. And, just like the previous one, it responds to you usage. I haven't seen the recommendations on the home screen since about 10 minutes after updating to this version of the home screen. And, if I compare what is on the current home screen to what was on the previous one, I saw a lot more "ads" on the previous one. Quote:
For PDFs, I believe that Kobo does an excellent job of rendering them. Performance is crap, but, that's because the devices are deliberately low-spec. Navigation, if you need to zoom is terrible as well. I'm never try to deny that, and I accept that a low-powered device is going to be bad. And yes, I don't think Kobo have any real priority on PDF handling as they recognise that epub and similar are much better on devices like that. Though they did put some changes in the last firmware release to improve PDF performance. No idea how much it helps as I am just not interested in reading PDFs. Kobo have also spent a lot of time advertising their devices as "open". They pointed out you could get books from a lot of places and put them on their devices. They don't place as much emphasis on this now, but, sideloading books is still well supported. And in response to the first post: One size does not fit all. For any job, you should choose tool that fits you and the job the best. For some, this is a big tablet, for others, a simple dedicated ebook reader. Last edited by davidfor; 12-30-2019 at 06:33 PM. |
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