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Old 01-18-2020, 12:11 PM   #61
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so you've not heard of this thing called paper, yet

people make books out of it, supposedly, and you read them totally OFFLINE.

also there's a thriving market for used ones , sold for cash at charity shops / car boot sales....

just use a false name
I can't read paper books on a regular basis, due to my eyesight. Digital books gave me back my favorite hobby.

I found your reply more than a little insulting and condescending.
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Old 01-18-2020, 12:17 PM   #62
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Although it is difficult and maybe impossible to have no digital footprint, it can still be desirable not to needlessly or recklessly enlarge it. Certainly many companies, governments, and other entities have been some combination of malicious in the gathering and combining of personal information and negligent, incompetent, and reckless in safeguarding it.

Everyone needs to decide for themselves how they will cope, but they should try to be informed and to think about it at least some.
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Old 01-18-2020, 01:28 PM   #63
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I can't read paper books on a regular basis, due to my eyesight. Digital books gave me back my favorite hobby.

I found your reply more than a little insulting and condescending.
Suggesting a magnifying glass will not be well received then ?

It was meant to be humourous, as some of the paranoia expressed in this thread is rather silly, IMHO.

But there are such things as large print books, and audiobooks on casttees, CDs still. Last time I looked, my library had shelves and shelves full...

So I found your "deprived of " all reading reply to be a little.... Well let's say " overstated", and not trade pointless insults. After all , the Deep State may be on to us...
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just use a false name
What for? I've never had a cashier ask me for my name so the only record they might have if paying cash is CCTV.

What you need is a different face.
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Old 01-18-2020, 01:30 PM   #65
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I can't read paper books on a regular basis, due to my eyesight. Digital books gave me back my favorite hobby.

I found your reply more than a little insulting and condescending.
If you had given the information about your eyesight in your original message, perhaps you would not have received the reply that you consider insulting.

In my personal experience, one of my uncles spent many hours at the local library reading paper books and newspapers with the help of their magnifying viewer. He is much happier now with his Kobo ereader but, for him, the desire to read outweighed the nuisance of having to do so at the library.
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Old 01-18-2020, 01:33 PM   #66
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What for? I've never had a cashier ask me for my name so the only record they might have if paying cash is CCTV.

What you need is a different face.
Deep state agent to car boot seller: who did you sell that highly subversive book to?
seller: Dunno mate, he said his name was Bond, James Bond. Can I interest you in a rare copy of Fahrenheit 451, slightly singed...
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Old 01-18-2020, 01:38 PM   #67
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Although it is difficult and maybe impossible to have no digital footprint, it can still be desirable not to needlessly or recklessly enlarge it. Certainly many companies, governments, and other entities have been some combination of malicious in the gathering and combining of personal information and negligent, incompetent, and reckless in safeguarding it.
While I tend to agree with you, I also keep in mind Hanlon's razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

Is there anyone who has worked in IT who has not heard "I never thought ..." as part of the reason for Bad Things happening? For me, one of the first times I remember was "I never thought that using magnets to hold the floppy disks on the file cabinet would hurt them".
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Old 01-18-2020, 01:40 PM   #68
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What for? I've never had a cashier ask me for my name so the only record they might have if paying cash is CCTV.

What you need is a different face.
In this area, quite a few stores now ask for my email address even if I am paying cash.
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In this area, quite a few stores now ask for my email address even if I am paying cash.

Around here some do that too, I ignore the question.


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If you had given the information about your eyesight in your original message, perhaps you would not have received the reply that you consider insulting.
I found the statement insulting too. When someone mentions that they cannot read paper books regularly, and digital methods make reading easier, is it really that difficult to read between the lines and understand what they are saying?

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Suggesting a magnifying glass will not be well received then ?
I imagine this was an attempt at humor. But it flopped (and it should have been obvious that it would), so it came off more insulting and condescending than humorous. Insulting was the result of the post, but it probably was not the intent. However, when someone mentions that they were insulted by the original post, and the comeback post is another insult, that does tend to bring the question of intent into the equation.
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While I tend to agree with you, I also keep in mind Hanlon's razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
That is one of my favorite sayings. I never knew it was termed "Hanlon's razor". I'll have to remember that!
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Deep state agent to car boot seller: who did you sell that highly subversive book to?
seller: Dunno mate, he said his name was Bond, James Bond. Can I interest you in a rare copy of Fahrenheit 451, slightly singed...
Wonderful. Maybe that's the guy I got a damaged 1984 from (written in 1948 and really, like Animal Farm, about then. Brave New world, well I have that too, alongside Future Shock, the 2 part 1999 by Wilfred Greatorex, Program for a Puppet and Shockwave Rider. Sad that Big Tech thinks these are blueprints, not warnings)

Actually a lot of companies were pointlessly collecting data because they had been sold the mantra it (Big Data) was a good idea.
Was just talking this pm to someone in GM and he says that obviously there will be no change at Facebook, Google etc, but GM and other people they know are stepping back from collecting data because of GDPR and the new Californian law. They can't be sure that they can do it securely. The risk of it going wrong and big fines is now too high and it doesn't make them any money anyway.
This is good.
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What for? I've never had a cashier ask me for my name so the only record they might have if paying cash is CCTV...
And your fingerprints, DNA maybe too. So I keep my fingers sandpapered, and wear a hazmat suit and balaclava whenever making cash purchases.
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Can you provide a link that discusses how to do this?
Sorry for the delay. I don't think I could link here to Aprentice Alf page (even when the topic isn't related to DRM itself). It is mentioned there as a warning, in the form of please log with your adobe id because...

Anyways, what you need to do is simply install ADE 2.0.1 and authorize this computer without an Adobe ID. Then ADE will remind you if you go to help>authorize

Here's a screenshot: it looks funny because I run ADE in wine. Also, it is spanish but says the same I warned in my previous post.

Because I never had an adobe id I cannot tell you what happens if you log first and then logout. Also I don't use windows so I don't know if the program leaves traces on the registry or if the plugin detects the new .der file once it is created.
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