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Don't like libraries lending your books? Don't "sell" them. It's only 15% of their digital income, which is already under 20% of the total. Less than 3%. It's not as if they need the money, right? |
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I wasn't saying that matching the price of the hypothetical random indie book is a good strategy, just that the presence of cheaper random indie books should exert some downward pressure on random non-indie books. Which, at least to me, doesn't really seem to be happening, at least in the agency era.
EDIT: then again, there's less desirable big5 books that are more reasonable. I doubt many people would, say, pay $15 for those, and they're generally not trying to sell them for that price. Last edited by binaryhermit; 07-31-2019 at 08:49 PM. |
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Used to be driven by bestsellers from the big publishers. Back when they had an oligopoly on publishing. They were only competing on content. A bestselling indie writes a better book than a mediocre big5. Now the indie will write more books, the mediocre big5 is lucky to get a new contract for another book.
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I didn't mean to say books are completely fungible, just that at some point for most books they can be priced out of the market.
In my opinion the big5 bestsellers are around that price for me. I mean, when you can get 3-10, or more indie books, for the price of one bestseller... And a side note, I think Amazon played the publishers big time, that they got market dominance, now agency lets them get a fairly healthy profit margin without anyone else being able to undercut them significantly in any way on price |
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It's not frictionless. You wait your turn (which can be many months), then can only check the ebook out for a limited period. If it were truly frictionless, ebook sales of books available at libraries would be zero.
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Before ebooks: You have to leave your house and go to the library. You have to locate and then check out the book. You have to pay your late fees before being able to check out the book. You have to deal with books others have read with their booger’s and Cheeto dust on the pages You have to remember to take the book back You have to find the book somewhere in your house You have to take the book back and drop it off Vs....now You open and app, search for your book, and instantly download it to your device. You are right about the hassle of waiting which remains about the sole reason for buying the book. Ergo...by raising prices on ebooks sold to libraries...fewer copies will be purchased...meaning longer wait times....meaning fewer people will opt to check out for free vs simply buying the book right now. |
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Exactly. The only frictionless library is Kindle Unlimited. KU is probably the reason why Amazon is not trying to get into regular libraries - the shopping experience is too lacking.
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Personally I find very few of your "friction" aspects of paper library lending any sort of friction at all, but I suppose some people are not very organised, or live some distance from a library, or have library staff who fail to check books properly on their return. We have a great library branch system in my city, plus a Books on Wheels service for those who can't get to the library, as well as rates-funded council buses for seniors and disabled people who prefer to attend in person. Emails are sent automatically three days from the due date and at the due date, and you can reserve and renew books online. Last edited by meeera; 08-01-2019 at 01:48 AM. |
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Some people don't have the mobility to *go* to the library, which is why bookmobiles exist and persist. Providing access to the young and access-limited in urban and rural areas.
As the library gripes make clear, ebook programs are intended for the access-impaired in urban/suburban areas. Not for general convenience. As is, many libraries are already spending more on ebook accessibility than they feel comfortable with, on a cost per read basis compared to print. So if ebook prices go high enough, putting the accessibility money back into bookmobiles starts to look more viable for that particular mission. Last edited by fjtorres; 08-01-2019 at 09:03 AM. |
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I think people are using "accessibility" in different ways in this thread. Paper books are a less accessible form _for me_ because of their bulk and weight, and sometimes their font size. No amount of visiting bookmobiles will make that disability access issue go away, and that's why I talk about ebooks as an accessible format. I'm not using "accessibility" as a synonym for "convenience", and I wonder if that confusion is why some threads about ebooks and accessibility go awry. |
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