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Old 07-03-2018, 07:20 PM   #61
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Good grief, England won a penalty shoot-out.

Maybe a France v England final.
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Old 07-04-2018, 10:25 AM   #62
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If Harry Kane were not white, we would be screaming about his ridiculous flapping and flopping. He was as bad as Neymar.

Also, I am a Liverpool fan, and I was absolutely ashamed of Jordan Henderson - both his reaction to being bumped in the chin as well as butting his head back into a dude.

Gerrard was the same way - go to play for England and turn into a brat like the rest of the team.
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Old 07-04-2018, 10:37 AM   #63
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If Harry Kane were not white, we would be screaming about his ridiculous flapping and flopping. He was as bad as Neymar.

Also, I am a Liverpool fan, and I was absolutely ashamed of Jordan Henderson - both his reaction to being bumped in the chin as well as butting his head back into a dude.

Gerrard was the same way - go to play for England and turn into a brat like the rest of the team.
I really don't think it's a racist thing. It's a "he's playing for England" thing. Personally, I think that anybody who screams and rolls as much as many of the players at the World Cup should have to leave the pitch to be treated by a doctor.
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Old 07-07-2018, 01:06 PM   #64
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If Harry Kane were not white, we would be screaming about his ridiculous flapping and flopping. He was as bad as Neymar.

Also, I am a Liverpool fan, and I was absolutely ashamed of Jordan Henderson - both his reaction to being bumped in the chin as well as butting his head back into a dude.

Gerrard was the same way - go to play for England and turn into a brat like the rest of the team.
I only saw the second half of the England-Croatia match, but there was about three diving and rolling incidents by Croatia and none by England. I'm not sure why you bring race into it.
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I only saw the second half of the England-Croatia match, but there was about three diving and rolling incidents by Croatia and none by England. I'm not sure why you bring race into it.
England were relatively well-behaved in the Croatia match. Lovren probably should have been on a card for a good part of the game for a challenge on Kane. I had just found Kane's behavior before that to be egregious. He clearly was not himself, and I saw that Neville thinks he picked up a knock a few games ago. Having said that, The Guardian noted that Pickford got away with "poleaxing" Mario Mandžukić.

I wasn't trying to be inflammatory about race. It was just really striking in the US punditry that when a South American team went flopping about, they were given loads of stick for it. When European teams did, they were just "playing by the rest of the world's rules."
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