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By the way, there's one other author who might be worth discussing in this thread and that's Robert L Forward and his book "Dragon's Egg". This is absolutely hard science fiction, as much as any book could ever be, and yet it takes place in a setting that seems impossible to have anything happen, on the surface of a neutron star with gravity 67 billion times as great as on Earth. Stuff happens though. Stuff really happens. He wrote shortly after the golden age of sf and I really don't know much about him other than that one book. It's a book that's hard to forget. Barry Barry |
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Anyway that book got me looking for others like it and that's how I found out about SF. Keep in mind that SF in those days wasn't something nice people would talk about. Barry |
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Speaking about Tom Swift, I found out yesterday that the Taser, when invented, was originally called TSER, short for 'Tom Swifts Electric Rifle' (the inventor clearly saw the similarities) Last edited by mbovenka; 06-23-2017 at 04:35 AM. |
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They were my first 'real' SF writers (after the Tom Swift books and juveniles like that). |
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06-23-2017, 08:31 AM | #66 | |
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The story is about the journey, and the battles, and Honor's life, not about the technology. Anyway, as someone else said, Weber isn't classic. Sorry for bringing this thread off topic. Shari |
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Don't worry. Many people disagree with it. Most of them just quickly tire of arguing with people who are more concerned with the definitions of labels than they are with the works to which those labels get affixed.
The only people who acknowledge any such "accepted guideline" are those who are willing to dismiss out of hand, any opinions that don't jive with their personal nostalgic notions about what is, and isn't, SF. It's pointless navel gazing for the most part. Every author/reader's opinion about what should be labeled science fiction is correct. It's the opinions about what shouldn't be called SF that are primarily hogwash. |
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I'd think that if someone was published in one of the good anthologies in the 50s and 60s, they are Golden Age and classic. Their later works might be great or stink, but they met that requirement.
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So yes, any writer published within 1938-1960 falls within the Golden Age. There's still a couple active that fit the designation. |
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06-23-2017, 12:03 PM | #71 | |
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... simply being published during that period doesn't qualify you for being one of the "founders of the 'Golden Age' of Science Fiction", the proposed topic of this thread. Many writers got their start during the Golden Age, but didn't write any really great works during the period, despite later maturing into one of the major authors of SF (whether Science Fiction or the more broadly defined Speculative Fiction). John Brunner, mentioned earlier, would, in my mind, be one such example. |
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06-23-2017, 02:58 PM | #72 | |
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Here are some suggestions: Theodore Sturgeon - Thunder and Roses L Sprague DeCamp - A Gun For Dinosaur Robert A Heinlein - The Green Hills of Earth Cordwainer Smith - The Game of Rat and Dragon Fritz Leiber - A Pail of Air Arthur C Clarke - The Nine Billion Names of God C M Kornbluth - The Little Black Bag A E Van Vogt - Dear Pen Pal Isaac Asimov - It's Such A Beautiful Day Tom Godwin - The Cold Equations |
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Here are some suggestions: Theodore Sturgeon - Thunder and Roses L Sprague DeCamp - A Gun For Dinosaur Robert A Heinlein - The Green Hills of Earth Cordwainer Smith - The Game of Rat and Dragon Fritz Leiber - A Pail of Air Arthur C Clarke - The Nine Billion Names of God C M Kornbluth - The Little Black Bag A E Van Vogt - Dear Pen Pal Isaac Asimov - It's Such A Beautiful Day Tom Godwin - The Cold Equations |
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There's also these, from Anthony Boucher two volume set: https://www.amazon.com/Treasury-Grea.../dp/B00005X06U Two volumes, 4 full novels, and a big assortment of novellas, noveletes, and shorts. All great. Spoiler:
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For those interested in deeper roots of the genre: https://www.amazon.com/Before-Golden...e+isaac+asimov Last edited by fjtorres; 06-23-2017 at 04:56 PM. |
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So, "discovered a new element that enables faster than light travel" == "soft" (or maybe even fantasy), while "discovered a new element that is more stable than other transuranic elements and allows this previously impossible chemical process" == "hard". |
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