10-10-2012, 11:52 AM | #46 | |
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As for other things too numerous to quote for the most relevance, I'll just throw this in: I, myself, possess some unpopular ideas. None relevant to ebooks, so I won't bother listing them. However, no matter how badly I would like certain aspects of reality to be different, I live in the current reality, and that is what shapes my actions. Because I'm not running around acting out in civil disobedience, am I dishonest? A hypocrite? I don't believe so. Would sharing those ideas in a forum automatically mean I'm acting on them? No. Granted, there have been people on this forum that advocate similar ideas to Giggles' that do so to justify their own actions (piracy, infringement), but they are generally pretty obvious. Some flat-out admit it. So far all I've seen from Giggles is ideas, but no evidence of action. I can't assume the latter due to the former. |
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10-10-2012, 12:21 PM | #48 |
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OK, the topic of copyright infringement.
When industrial revolution started, the society shifted from peasant-master composition to a community with equitable resources and benefits of mass production. This mass prouction was driven primarily by monetary incentives. The profits of the company. It inspired, motivated and pushed humans to get creative, get innovative and we dreamt of an ingenious near-utopian society. But utopia is unnatural. Everything that comes into existence has to go. It has to vanish. It has to be replaced by someting else. The replacement has partially completed. The information age, as we call it, is taking over industrialized countries. Some countries have completed this process. Developing ones are just starting to enter this phase. Everything has a plateau. A plateau where growth slows down, then gradually it stops at some point. We have reached a plateu. The purpose of allowing monetary incentives has fulfilled the needs. It has, better than expected. Better than we ever imagined. While standing at the start of this plateau, we are tasting the other side of this coin. We are debating whether this coin has two sides or one? As truth always says, it has. It has two sides. It will always have two sides. What do we do now? What do we do now as a community? We have to start something new. Something that will replace this. Sure it has been born. It was born long ago. Grwoing slowly. Creeping up behind the curtain to take over this mess. you know what it is. You are aleady using it at some time or other. Creative Commons. Open source. Public domain. Now I will not enlist the huge list of texts, software, even hardware/tools, information, systems, media and what not in a way where people tell you: "Free for Humans". Use it for whatever purpose you like. Because we are one society. This will take over. It will get better with time. It is getting better with time. Better than the products withh monetary incentives. Time will answer. We better stop beating dead horse, literally. |
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10-10-2012, 03:41 PM | #50 | |
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My point with gigs is he wants to take this freedom away. |
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10-10-2012, 03:52 PM | #51 |
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Funny, that is how I read all your arguments. You do not seem to understand simple arguments and seem to miss why your own arguments are bad. Well, I will stop reading your arguments since they are so bad.
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10-10-2012, 03:54 PM | #52 | |
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If Giggles were arguing that copyright law was in need of reform, and encouraging people to write their congresscritters to say so, that would be a good thing. But he's not. If Giggles were talking about acts of civil disobedience, in which he fully expected to be punished, even go to jail, and accepted that possibility, that'd be courageous. But he's not. He's advocating other people simply breaking the law, pure and simple. Quote:
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10-10-2012, 06:00 PM | #54 |
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That reads like you cribbed it out of some high school social studies text. From 1980 Communist USSR.
lit·er·al·ly/ˈlitərəlē/ Adverb: 1.In a literal manner or sense; exactly: "the driver took it literally when asked to go straight over the traffic circle". I do not think that word means what you think it means. |
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He's clearly a troll, just trying to provoke reactions. Any reactions. Some people are so desperate for any kind of human contact, even being a punching bag is better than the loneliness. I'm increasingly of the opinion that knows full well what he's doing, and is doing it on purpose.
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10-10-2012, 06:03 PM | #56 |
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Though "simple" is a good description of your posts, I have yet to see anything resembling an argument from you or Giggles. All I see from Giggles is trolling, and all I see from you is naive whining about how the world isn't fair and you can't just take stuff you want without paying for it. That's not an argument, that's just acting like a child.
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10-10-2012, 06:05 PM | #57 | |
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Is that correct? If so, could you point me to it? I can always use a good laught. I'll bet you're an Ayn Rand fan, too. |
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10-10-2012, 06:23 PM | #58 | |
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All he's done, at least on this thread, is offer up a few ideas. He hasn't included his personal opinion, unless I missed something (certainly possible), yet you've accused him of some very interesting things, even going so far as to call him names. Instead of attacking someone for actually THINKING, and not just thinking, but THINKING OUT LOUD, why don't you entertain us all some more and attempt to justify your own actions. |
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10-10-2012, 06:52 PM | #59 | |
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Nice attempt to move the goalposts, but if you believe that I've been talking about this thread, and not his posts overall, then you really need a remedial course in reading comprehension. Seriously. You're not participating in teh same conversation that I am. I've only ever - in any post - seen him offer up one idea: that he doesn't want to have to pay for stuff he wants, and can't afford to buy. That's it. He hasn't included his personal opinion, unless I missed something (certainly possible), yet you've accused him of some very interesting things, even going so far as to call him names. Why? What could that possibly do for me that I would want to happen? Do you feel that I owe you something? That I have some obligation to act in the way you want? If so, how is it that this is a one way obligation? That I have to act according to your expectations, but you don't have to act according to mine? Because I - in all seriousness - have some suggestions on things you could do that would make me happier. |
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10-10-2012, 07:51 PM | #60 |
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All I have ever said and all I will ever say "here" is that everyone should be free to write what they will, and everyone is also free to read what they will. It honestly doesn't get much simpler than that.
I'm not sure what you mean by trolling. Why would you post anything if you did not want a response? |
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