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Old 10-11-2024, 03:04 PM   #151
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I think DrNefario is probably right. I'd be really surprised if Amazon abandoned Kindle completely. They'll probably produce a Basic model at the very least. I'm hoping they do more than that, though.
Tough to say. Would those with Paperwhite, Oasis, ... be satisfied with a Basic? Looking at the number of reviews, a Kindle (2019) has 49700 reviews while a Paperwhite (2018) has 124000 reviews (U.S. site).
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Old 10-11-2024, 05:15 PM   #152
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Tough to say. Would those with Paperwhite, Oasis, ... be satisfied with a Basic? Looking at the number of reviews, a Kindle (2019) has 49700 reviews while a Paperwhite (2018) has 124000 reviews (U.S. site).
That would drive me straight to Kobo for my next ereader if they started selling only the basic...
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I would've bought a Kobo Oasis-like device a while ago if I had an easy way to access all my Amazon bought books (I have no patience for stripping the DRM off and converting them to epub).
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Old 10-11-2024, 06:58 PM   #154
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random thought, the Paperwhite SE is probably discontinued assuming that the inclusion of a wireless charging coil and a light sensor would be enough changes to require a separate (third) FCC filing.

And my speculation of the Kindle line being discontinued was merely based off of the way all the models have gone out of stock being weird.

Also, assuming Amazon does discontinue the Kindle line there's probably the option of using the Kindle app on Android eInk tablets going forward
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Old 10-11-2024, 07:08 PM   #155
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The Kindle still sells really well and then has the add-on impact of driving Amazon content sales since it is a captive ecosystem.
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Old 10-11-2024, 07:31 PM   #156
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Also, assuming Amazon does discontinue the Kindle line there's probably the option of using the Kindle app on Android eInk tablets going forward
I could be wrong, but I suspect this isn't as nice an experience.
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Old 10-11-2024, 08:34 PM   #157
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Tough to say. Would those with Paperwhite, Oasis, ... be satisfied with a Basic? Looking at the number of reviews, a Kindle (2019) has 49700 reviews while a Paperwhite (2018) has 124000 reviews (U.S. site).
I haven’t been really satisfied with Kindle since my Voyage died. I have an Oasis but it is nothing special.
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Warm light was an overhyped feature IMO, I never found it preferable to dark theme in dark environment or to plain white with any amount of external lighting.

I'm certainly doing more than my share to keep eReaders relevant. I probably have about 10 of the things (including 2 with Kaleido), for reasons that I cannot even explain to myself. But I did cull the herd and donated a perfectly good one to Goodwill this week, FWIW.

My interest in a new Kindle is lower than it's ever been, and especially if it is just a refresh of current lineup. Almost 2 years in I remain very happy with Scribe (in a glass half full way) so probably about the only thing that would capture my interest is if they come out with a color Kindle with Gallery display technology. It would need to have 8"-ish or larger display.
I find frontlight to be overhyped in general. The sharpness gains without it make a lack of frontlight worth it to me (see the Onyx Boox Go 10.3). (I would also take a lot of buttons over a touch layer, especially if combined with wacom tech - see the Hanvon N10/Penstar.)

But it is nice to have frontlight for reading in bed or on an e-ink phone (Hisense A9). But I never use only the cold light - it makes me nauseous. During the day I use half and half and during the night full warmth.
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I haven’t been really satisfied with Kindle since my Voyage died. I have an Oasis but it is nothing special.
I agree with this. The Voyage was the best all-round Kindle e-reader device they produced. I guess it cost too much to make etc, but it would've been nice if Amazon had built off the Voyage's positives and continued a similar line of devices. a 6.8inch Voyage would've been fantastic. Ah well.
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Amazon would probably prefer folks to use an App. In fact the majority of people do use an app on a phone, and secondarily on a tablet. The eink is 3rd place.
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I agree with this. The Voyage was the best all-round Kindle e-reader device they produced. I guess it cost too much to make etc, but it would've been nice if Amazon had built off the Voyage's positives and continued a similar line of devices. a 6.8inch Voyage would've been fantastic. Ah well.
The Paperwhite 3 was basically a cost reduced Voyage. The PW4 was a bit of a stumble.

I thought the Voyage was very overpriced.
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I preferred the Oasis models to the Voyage, which never felt right for me ergonomically.
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I bought a Paperwhite when they were on sale several years ago--thinking I needed to give eink another go. I used it a bit for reading; plus it was way better on battery when using it with earbuds for Audible books than anything else. But I can't remember the last time I used it. Every time I think about using it, it's nowhere near where I am. The tablet, phone and earbuds are always within reach.
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The Paperwhite 3 was basically a cost reduced Voyage. The PW4 was a bit of a stumble.

I thought the Voyage was very overpriced.
Value and price don't always match.

I own multiple quite old Voyages and a PW3, which is no spring chicken, but it is less old and has a larger lithium cell.

Given a choice today of one only between a hypothetical newly manufactured Voyage at full 2014 retail price and a hypothetical newly manufactured PW3 at no charge, I would choose the Voyage without hesitation.
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