Confused on how to fix this problem (pic included)

Frogsmasha · 03-22-2007, 02:45 PM

The picture pretty much sums up the problem. I do have Office 2003, so editing through Microsoft Word is possible. I've tried changing some settings around in Word, but I think I'm doing something wrong. This book is in .txt format.

I have also tried scanning the board, and I couldn't find what I was looking for. Maybe I missed a post on these boards. I would love to read about it :>

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...g?t=1174585516

Link to the picture, if the picture doesn't show.

Thanks a ton

NatCh · 03-22-2007, 03:18 PM

Looks like you've got a bunch of hard returns, Frogsmasha. You can check by turning on the editing marks and seeing if they show up.

Stingo's macro might work for you as an automagic fixer, assuming that's the problem.

NatCh · 03-22-2007, 03:20 PM

Also, scottcstoness just posted another option over here: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...8&postcount=60

dhbailey · 03-22-2007, 03:26 PM

Join the Librie group at yahoogroups, then go to the files section and click on the folder ContentGeneration and download librietextassistant_win_01.zip and install it.

Then click on the OPEN button and open your file, then click PROCESS to remove all extraneous hard returns (it does keep the paragraphs just fine) and then click SAVE to save it back under the same name.

Simple, tidy, free, efficient, what could be better?

HarryT · 03-23-2007, 04:41 AM

Without a shadow of a doubt the problem is that each line of the file ends in a hard return - the normal formatting for a text file.

Stingo's Word formatting macro will sort it all out for you.

Frogsmasha · 03-23-2007, 11:54 AM

I downloaded BookDesigner that I found on these forums, and you know what, it works pretty good. I took my mangled .txt file and converted it to a decent looking book

Thanks for your help guys, I owe you one

NatCh · 03-23-2007, 12:34 PM

Hey, that's what we're all here for, Frogsmasha: to help each other out -- it usually even works!

Frogsmasha · 03-26-2007, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NatCh

Hey, that's what we're all here for, Frogsmasha: to help each other out -- it usually even works!

Why isn't there a smilies gif for high fives?

NatCh · 03-26-2007, 10:13 PM

Heh, find one you like, and maybe you can get Alexander to add it to the list.

(That's how I got the shrug smilie

)

Fitzwaryn · 04-12-2007, 08:53 AM

Use a Hex Editor.

If you can get the book dumped out in txt format then open it with a hex editor. There are plenty of free ones out on the net.

Look for the hard returns in the text in the text window and find the matching hex chars. They are usually 0D 0A. You can also scan for double returns which often are paragraph breaks. Different word processors will produce different patterns. Personally I prefer a double return between paragraphs but that's just my personal preference.

The most common case I encounter is lines each broken by a 0D 0A and paragraphs broken by 0D 0A 0D 0A (double returns).

In that case I do a global replace of the 0D 0A 0D 0A with a non text string like FF EE FF EE then do a global replace of 0D 0A with 20 (space). Then do a replace of 20 20 with 20 and repeat that global replace until there aren't any more. That takes care of spaces just before or after the hard returns you got rid of.

Once that's done I just replace FF EE FF EE with 0D 0A 0D 0A and I have the paragraph breaks back.

I do other clean up while in the editor to get rid of indentations, odd characters that might be unicode which displays as question marks and any other odd little irritants..

Get comfortable with using a hex editor and you can do all sorts of fast and nice cleanups in txt files. Once that's done, you save the file back out then open it with Word, set the font size you want, enter for Info information and save it as an RTF. It's then ready to load onto the Reader

I do that so often that sometimes I'll start reading a book, notice some irritating little anomaly that I missed before and re-edit the txt file with the hex editor to correct it then reformat it as RTF again and reload it.

Once you get comfortable using a Hex Editor you can usually clean up a txt file in 20-30 seconds.

Even some really badly formatted files can be cleaned up globally with

03-22-2007, 02:45 PM	#1
Frogsmasha Connoisseur Posts: 88 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2006	Confused on how to fix this problem (pic included) The picture pretty much sums up the problem. I do have Office 2003, so editing through Microsoft Word is possible. I've tried changing some settings around in Word, but I think I'm doing something wrong. This book is in .txt format. I have also tried scanning the board, and I couldn't find what I was looking for. Maybe I missed a post on these boards. I would love to read about it :> http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...g?t=1174585516 Link to the picture, if the picture doesn't show. Thanks a ton Last edited by Frogsmasha; 03-22-2007 at 02:56 PM.

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03-22-2007, 03:18 PM	#2
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	Looks like you've got a bunch of hard returns, Frogsmasha. You can check by turning on the editing marks and seeing if they show up. Stingo's macro might work for you as an automagic fixer, assuming that's the problem.

03-22-2007, 03:20 PM	#3
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	Also, scottcstoness just posted another option over here: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...8&postcount=60

03-22-2007, 03:26 PM	#4
dhbailey Guru Posts: 604 Karma: 733 Join Date: Mar 2007 Device: HP iPAQ211 / PRS 500, 700 and 505	Join the Librie group at yahoogroups, then go to the files section and click on the folder ContentGeneration and download librietextassistant_win_01.zip and install it. Then click on the OPEN button and open your file, then click PROCESS to remove all extraneous hard returns (it does keep the paragraphs just fine) and then click SAVE to save it back under the same name. Simple, tidy, free, efficient, what could be better?

03-23-2007, 04:41 AM	#5
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Without a shadow of a doubt the problem is that each line of the file ends in a hard return - the normal formatting for a text file. Stingo's Word formatting macro will sort it all out for you.

03-23-2007, 11:54 AM	#6
Frogsmasha Connoisseur Posts: 88 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2006	I downloaded BookDesigner that I found on these forums, and you know what, it works pretty good. I took my mangled .txt file and converted it to a decent looking book Thanks for your help guys, I owe you one

03-23-2007, 12:34 PM	#7
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	Hey, that's what we're all here for, Frogsmasha: to help each other out -- it usually even works!

03-26-2007, 10:13 PM	#9
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	Heh, find one you like, and maybe you can get Alexander to add it to the list. (That's how I got the shrug smilie )

04-12-2007, 08:53 AM	#10
Fitzwaryn Connoisseur Posts: 54 Karma: 395 Join Date: Jul 2006	Use a Hex Editor. If you can get the book dumped out in txt format then open it with a hex editor. There are plenty of free ones out on the net. Look for the hard returns in the text in the text window and find the matching hex chars. They are usually 0D 0A. You can also scan for double returns which often are paragraph breaks. Different word processors will produce different patterns. Personally I prefer a double return between paragraphs but that's just my personal preference. The most common case I encounter is lines each broken by a 0D 0A and paragraphs broken by 0D 0A 0D 0A (double returns). In that case I do a global replace of the 0D 0A 0D 0A with a non text string like FF EE FF EE then do a global replace of 0D 0A with 20 (space). Then do a replace of 20 20 with 20 and repeat that global replace until there aren't any more. That takes care of spaces just before or after the hard returns you got rid of. Once that's done I just replace FF EE FF EE with 0D 0A 0D 0A and I have the paragraph breaks back. I do other clean up while in the editor to get rid of indentations, odd characters that might be unicode which displays as question marks and any other odd little irritants.. Get comfortable with using a hex editor and you can do all sorts of fast and nice cleanups in txt files. Once that's done, you save the file back out then open it with Word, set the font size you want, enter for Info information and save it as an RTF. It's then ready to load onto the Reader I do that so often that sometimes I'll start reading a book, notice some irritating little anomaly that I missed before and re-edit the txt file with the hex editor to correct it then reformat it as RTF again and reload it. Once you get comfortable using a Hex Editor you can usually clean up a txt file in 20-30 seconds. Even some really badly formatted files can be cleaned up globally with

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