Replacement of old Kindle

Drakarn · 09-15-2017, 05:40 AM

Hi everyone,

I am looking for e-book reader, which I could replace my old Kindle 3G (keyboard). After nearly 6 years my old reader is stopping to work. So I am trying to search for some convinient replacement.

Fortunately I am not bind to Amazon by many books from Amazon store as I have copy of them in epub format. Also I have spend a lot of time to organize my huge library in Calibre so I would like to use it even with new model (I have books in epub and converted to mobi with pictures).
As I am daily traveling by underground where is no connection signal all books needs to be placed on device, also I am not really fan of being on Wi-fi 24/7.

To summarize it here is what I am searching for:
Required

Type of display: E-Ink
Size of display: Around 6"
HW buttons on side of display
Allows connection via Micro USB to computer (or any other type of USB cable)
274 ppi or better

Other optional features/parametrs

Forelight - can be on model, but preferably if it could be possible to completely turn it off
Batery life - longer better

What I really don't care about

Waterproof/dustproof - don't care about it
3G/4G/Wi-fi connectivity
Book store

Please note that I am from Europe.

Does anyone have reader to recommend?

HarryT · 09-15-2017, 06:37 AM

Your requirement for physical buttons severely restricts your choice. If you'd be willing to drop that requirement, you'd have a far wider range of devices available.

JSWolf · 09-15-2017, 06:41 AM

Why not go for a Kindle Voyage?

HarryT · 09-15-2017, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Why not go for a Kindle Voyage?

The Voyage is my favourite reader, but it should be pointed out that it has page turn sensors, not physical buttons. I really like them, but not everyone shares my view.

Drakarn · 09-15-2017, 07:35 AM

I understand that the HW buttons are serious restriction.
Let's say that for first round to get candidates I'll change this requirement from Required to Recommended. But in general there is one thing I don't really want to turn pages by touching screen, so the touch sensors for buttons are kind of acceptable, but I am here worried about their responsiveness, which is something I did not need to worry about on my old device.

Also when you are mentioning Kindle Voyage, what about Kindle Oasis? (even though I am little bit concerned about its cover holding only on magnets).

HarryT · 09-15-2017, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drakarn

the touch sensors for buttons are kind of acceptable, but I am here worried about their responsiveness, which is something I did not need to worry about on my old device.

You needn't worry. I've used a Voyage for three years. The sensors have three levels of sensitivity. I have them set to the middle level, and never have problems with either missing page turns, or unintentional page turns. They really do work very, very well indeed.

Quote:

Also when you are mentioning Kindle Voyage, what about Kindle Oasis? (even though I am little bit concerned about its cover holding only on magnets).

Nice reader, certainly. The reason I prefer the Voyage is that it has a light sensor which automatically adjusts the brightness of the frontlight according to the lighting conditions. I really like that a lot, and the Oasis doesn't have it.

JSWolf · 09-15-2017, 07:46 AM

Forget the Oasis. It's a poor design and it's way too overpriced. The Voyage has much better hardware.

HarryT · 09-15-2017, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Forget the Oasis. It's a poor design and it's way too overpriced. The Voyage has much better hardware.

That's your opinion, Jon. Many people do like the design.

ZodWallop · 09-15-2017, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

That's your opinion, Jon. Many people do like the design.

Yeah, I don't think the Oasis is poorly designed at all. But I do think that the design doesn't justify the price over the equally nice Voyage.

There are several Android based e-readers that would meet all your requirements, including page turn buttons. The Icarus Illumina line for instance.

I don't have first hand experience with any of these devices, since in the US they are rarer than hen's teeth. But might be worth looking into.

Cinisajoy · 09-15-2017, 10:31 AM

Go with HarryT's suggestion.

dordale · 09-15-2017, 01:01 PM

I agree with HarryT and Ciniajoy--sounds like the Voyage is a good choice for you. I've had the Voyage for quite a while now, and like HarryT, I really like the page turn sensors. They work well for me. Once I got used to them (didn't take very long at all), I like the sensors better than physical buttons for turning pages.
I also have a Kobo Aura One, which I really like as well, but when I'm reading on it I find myself wishing that it had the page turn sensors of the Voyage. If it had those, I'd consider it the perfect device for me.

danicca · 09-15-2017, 01:26 PM

I don't know in which country you are, but it might be possible to see ereaders in store. I believe some chains in Germany have solid choice, like kindles, kobos and tolino.

barryem · 09-15-2017, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drakarn

I understand that the HW buttons are serious restriction.
Let's say that for first round to get candidates I'll change this requirement from Required to Recommended. But in general there is one thing I don't really want to turn pages by touching screen, so the touch sensors for buttons are kind of acceptable, but I am here worried about their responsiveness, which is something I did not need to worry about on my old device.

Also when you are mentioning Kindle Voyage, what about Kindle Oasis? (even though I am little bit concerned about its cover holding only on magnets).

I have a Voyage and I turn pages by swiping so I don't use the page turn sensors but I did try them out when I first got it and a couple of times since then. I think they work surprisingly well. If I felt a need for buttons they'd satisfy me. But I don't. I swipe and I rarely think to press the sensors.

I had a Kindle Keyboard when I got my Kindle Touch, the first one with a touchscreen and no page turn buttons. I was convinced I'd hate it and sure enough, I did. At the end of a week I was thinking of returning it but I decided to give it a more serious try. I put my KK away and read only on the Touch for a week. Then I got the Kindle Keyboard out again to read with it and compare. The thing wouldn't turn the page no matter how much I swiped it and it got so irritating I sold it.

I've been swiping ever since.

Barry

church mouse · 09-16-2017, 02:58 AM

In Europe, 300dpi readers with physical buttons include the Pocketbook Touch HD and the Cybook Muse HD. I have no experience at all of Cybook readers. I have the Pocketbook and I think it is a very good reader, though definitely improved further by installing the CoolReader-Pocketbook fork.

On the Android front, at 300dpi one might find the Onyx Boox Kepler Pro and the C67MLCarta2. Battery life may be less on Android readers. User posts of experience of both these readers can be found on this site.

milady133 · 09-16-2017, 04:41 PM

If you like to have your books organized in the reader, apart from Android readers (with Android applications to organize your books) Kobo readers integrate well with Calibre, so you can use Calibre plugins to automatically organize your books in collections. I also like being able to have the cover of the book I'm reading as sleep cover in the reader, although that probably won't be important to you coming from a Kindle.

09-15-2017, 05:40 AM	#1
Drakarn Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2017 Device: Kindle 3G	Replacement of old Kindle Hi everyone, I am looking for e-book reader, which I could replace my old Kindle 3G (keyboard). After nearly 6 years my old reader is stopping to work. So I am trying to search for some convinient replacement. Fortunately I am not bind to Amazon by many books from Amazon store as I have copy of them in epub format. Also I have spend a lot of time to organize my huge library in Calibre so I would like to use it even with new model (I have books in epub and converted to mobi with pictures). As I am daily traveling by underground where is no connection signal all books needs to be placed on device, also I am not really fan of being on Wi-fi 24/7. To summarize it here is what I am searching for: *Required* Type of display: E-Ink Size of display: Around 6" HW buttons on side of display Allows connection via Micro USB to computer (or any other type of USB cable) 274 ppi or better Other optional features/parametrs Forelight - can be on model, but preferably if it could be possible to completely turn it off Batery life - longer better *What I really don't care about* Waterproof/dustproof - don't care about it 3G/4G/Wi-fi connectivity Book store Please note that I am from Europe. Does anyone have reader to recommend?

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09-15-2017, 06:37 AM	#2
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Your requirement for physical buttons severely restricts your choice. If you'd be willing to drop that requirement, you'd have a far wider range of devices available.

09-15-2017, 06:41 AM	#3
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 78,894 Karma: 143095300 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Why not go for a Kindle Voyage?

09-15-2017, 07:35 AM	#5
Drakarn Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2017 Device: Kindle 3G	I understand that the HW buttons are serious restriction. Let's say that for first round to get candidates I'll change this requirement from Required to Recommended. But in general there is one thing I don't really want to turn pages by touching screen, so the touch sensors for buttons are kind of acceptable, but I am here worried about their responsiveness, which is something I did not need to worry about on my old device. Also when you are mentioning Kindle Voyage, what about Kindle Oasis? (even though I am little bit concerned about its cover holding only on magnets).

09-15-2017, 07:46 AM	#7
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 78,894 Karma: 143095300 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Forget the Oasis. It's a poor design and it's way too overpriced. The Voyage has much better hardware.

09-15-2017, 10:31 AM	#10
Cinisajoy Just a Yellow Smiley. Posts: 19,161 Karma: 83862859 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Texas Device: K4, K5, fire, kobo, galaxy	Go with HarryT's suggestion.

09-15-2017, 01:01 PM	#11
dordale Wizard Posts: 1,731 Karma: 3472866 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: Sony PRS-650 & 350; Kindle Voyage; Kobo Aura HD, Aura One, and Forma	I agree with HarryT and Ciniajoy--sounds like the Voyage is a good choice for you. I've had the Voyage for quite a while now, and like HarryT, I really like the page turn sensors. They work well for me. Once I got used to them (didn't take very long at all), I like the sensors better than physical buttons for turning pages. I also have a Kobo Aura One, which I really like as well, but when I'm reading on it I find myself wishing that it had the page turn sensors of the Voyage. If it had those, I'd consider it the perfect device for me.

09-15-2017, 01:26 PM	#12
danicca Addict Posts: 279 Karma: 517736 Join Date: Oct 2012 Device: kindle	I don't know in which country you are, but it might be possible to see ereaders in store. I believe some chains in Germany have solid choice, like kindles, kobos and tolino.

09-16-2017, 02:58 AM	#14
church mouse Evangelist Posts: 484 Karma: 5277078 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UK Device: Kobo Clara HD, Boox Poke 2, PocketBook Verse Pro (634)	In Europe, 300dpi readers with physical buttons include the Pocketbook Touch HD and the Cybook Muse HD. I have no experience at all of Cybook readers. I have the Pocketbook and I think it is a very good reader, though definitely improved further by installing the CoolReader-Pocketbook fork. On the Android front, at 300dpi one might find the Onyx Boox Kepler Pro and the C67MLCarta2. Battery life may be less on Android readers. User posts of experience of both these readers can be found on this site.

09-16-2017, 04:41 PM	#15
milady133 Groupie Posts: 188 Karma: 616200 Join Date: May 2014 Location: Spain Device: Kobo Forma, Hisense A5	If you like to have your books organized in the reader, apart from Android readers (with Android applications to organize your books) Kobo readers integrate well with Calibre, so you can use Calibre plugins to automatically organize your books in collections. I also like being able to have the cover of the book I'm reading as sleep cover in the reader, although that probably won't be important to you coming from a Kindle.

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