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Old 12-14-2018, 06:09 AM   #46
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Yes...but couldn't you have downloaded the .mobi version from Smashwords? (I know you used to be able to, but I haven't been to Smashwords in years)

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I must have drawn the short straw. It was only available in epub, and converting it to read on my then Paperwhite left it literally unreadable. When I got my first Kobo, I bought it there, and after sideloading a few devanagari fonts, I saw words I could read, instead of empty squares
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Old 12-14-2018, 07:55 AM   #47
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I would say that the vast majority of readers are quite happy with on demand reading and would likely be quite happy with a subscription service as long as it includes the NYT best seller list books.
The freedom allowed by "on demand reading" (as you call what we've described) is entirely at odds with the concept of a subscription-based service, in my opinion. Why the weird lumping?

I have zero interest in subscriptions OR NYT best sellers. The fact that someone doesn't care to curate a personal (not to mention local) digital library doesn't mean they're casual readers looking to be spoon fed whatever's popular this week. I have many dear, and obscure, favorite books that I'll probably never own ecopies of.
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Old 12-15-2018, 08:08 AM   #48
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The freedom allowed by "on demand reading" (as you call what we've described) is entirely at odds with the concept of a subscription-based service, in my opinion. Why the weird lumping?

I have zero interest in subscriptions OR NYT best sellers. The fact that someone doesn't care to curate a personal (not to mention local) digital library doesn't mean they're casual readers looking to be spoon fed whatever's popular this week. I have many dear, and obscure, favorite books that I'll probably never own ecopies of.
Hardly weird. On demand is what subscription services are all about. Be able to read any book for $10 a month, or whatever the price. That's what you get with music subscription services. There are few songs I can't listen to via Apple Music. The limited select that Pandora has is what is eventually going to see them go under, IMPO

The issue that book subscription services have is that currently have a much more limited selection of books. For book subscription services to be more than a niche market, that will have to change.

A large percentage of readers are readers who stick mostly to either a specific genre (i.e. romance) or best seller type books, read them once then move on. Those of us with extensive digital libraries are the exception rather than the rule. If you don't want to have a digital library, then more power to you.

I also have a collection of old, obscure paper books. What's interesting is that quite a few of those somewhat obscure books are actually available as ebooks since they are in public domain. It's a big enough world and scanning devices are cheap enough that someone is going to scan most books given the chance.
It's the old obscure books that aren't in PD that you want see as ebooks.
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Old 12-15-2018, 11:44 AM   #49
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Understood. We're just talking about different things, I guess. I wouldn't call what i do (and what issybird described) as "on demand reading." A more accurate moniker for what we were discussing would be JIT Buying/Reading: only purchasing a book when you're ready to begin reading it (from any and all sources), and not worrying about maintaining personal, digital libraries of read books. We weren't discussing paying a subscription fee for unlimited access to limited choices. That's something I certainly wouldn't have any interest in.

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Understood. We're just talking about different things, I guess. I wouldn't call what i do (and what issybird described) as "on demand reading." A more accurate moniker for what we were discussing would be JIT Buying/Reading: only purchasing a book when you're ready to begin reading it (from any and all sources), and not worrying about maintaining personal, digital libraries of read books. We weren't discussing paying a subscription fee for unlimited access to limited choices. That's something I certainly wouldn't have any interest in.
ok, yea that's a bit different that I was thinking that we were talking about. Thank you for clarifying what you were talking about.

My two biggest reasons for scarfing up ebooks when I see them rather than waiting until I'm ready to read them are 1) I've seen quite a few ebooks disappear from the stores over the years. Most of the time, I'm not even aware of it until someone mentions a book not being available and I think "what do you mean, I bought it". 2) I have a terrible memory for such things and unless I go ahead and buy it, odds are that I'll forget about the book. I do know that many people use wishlist to manage such things. I do that on audible.com, but once again, I have had a number of audio books go unavailable after I put the on the wishlist. That's why I go ahead and buy something that I know that I'm going to listen to, rather than just "that looks like it might be interesting".
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I think ereaders (the people, not the devices) of the voracious type have been very slow to adapt their buying/hoarding habits to the new reality*. Back in the paper day, you needed a backlog, so you always had something to read on hand. There also was the factor that you had to pick something up when you saw it, as it might not be available later**. Both of these factors have been largely obviated by digital books so there's no reason to have a huge virtual stack of unread books, but old habits die hard, as they say.
If one's reading is limited to NY Times top twenty, then perhaps your hypothesis is correct.

If one's reading is in niche fields, then titles come and go all of the time.
There are several ebooks (and dead tree editions) that used to be available from Amazon, but are no longer listed there. Not listed, as in there is no page for either the title, or the author.

I've got ebooks from half a dozen defunct publishers. Nobody is selling those titles.
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If one's reading is limited to NY Times top twenty, then perhaps your hypothesis is correct.

If one's reading is in niche fields, then titles come and go all of the time.
There are several ebooks (and dead tree editions) that used to be available from Amazon, but are no longer listed there. Not listed, as in there is no page for either the title, or the author.

I've got ebooks from half a dozen defunct publishers. Nobody is selling those titles.
True. I have several ebooks on my Amazon shopping list that are no longer available. Aside from ones I own that are also no longer available.
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