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This thread has caused me to seek out the 3 volume set of Science Fiction Hall of Fame books. Something about all the short stories and novellas really works for me.
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01-30-2020, 07:18 PM | #33 |
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The Strugatsky brothers deserve to be the third member of the big three sci-fi authors. And then there is Philip K. Dick.
John Wyndham wrote some ground-breaking short stories from the 30's. John Christopher was a close friend of Clarke, and wrote the brilliant YA Tripod Trilogy which may be the best YA book/s ever written. |
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When one starts to talk about some of the Old Masters who have become less remembered there are a number of changes both from a style point of view, changes in technology and a move from short stories to novels among others. The same changes can apply to other genres as well. I'm fond of The Worm Ouroboros, E.R. Eddison's classic. But I also understand why it's not exactly a current best seller. Certainly not like 10,000 Leagues under the Sea or The Three Musketeers, and let's not talk about the Sherlock Holmes stories or some of the Agatha Christie stories. I tend to find it as interesting to consider why certain stories are still popular after such a long time while other stories are not. One author that I really like who was published by Campbell was H Beam Piper. The Gunpower God/Lord Kalvin of Otherwhen was his most famous book, though Fuzzy is pretty famous as well. A number of his books have gone into PD, though Lord Kalvin of Otherwhen isn't. |
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Certainly there can be elements of science-fiction even in ancient literature, but I think it safe to say it matured into something more easily identifiable as science fiction in the nineteenth century.
However, I was appalled to see the suggestion that "old masters" might not include authors like Jules Verne and H.G. Wells ... and lots of others, but those two in particular are indisputably old masters of science fiction. The 1930s pulp post-pulp explosion is generally referred to as the "golden age", but it was a very definite, and limited, style of science fiction - fiction suitable to the publishing medium and audience of the time. Some authors worked well in this era and failed to evolve with the 1950s and 1960s, but some made that change with great success. The ones that made that change successfully, or that became a success into the 1950s and beyond are the ones I tend think of with greatest affection because I prefer the more substantial works that became the norm once again - reverting back to what worked before the supposed golden age. Last edited by gmw; 01-30-2020 at 10:01 PM. |
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I remember seeing the 2002 movie adaptation of The Time Machine in theaters when I was in HS, FWIW.
And The Time Machine was initially published in 1895. EDIT: And was obviously recognizable as science fiction. Last edited by binaryhermit; 01-31-2020 at 12:24 AM. |
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A._Bertram_Chandler, Isaac Asimov, and A.C. Clarke are old standby's for good Sci. Fi. I think. Edmund Hamilton is another good one. I agree that editors had a good deal of input. From what I've read John W. Campbell was one of those editors. He helped many of the old masters get established. And of course many of them wrote in the 'pulp' era where the author got .01 a word if they were lucky. So that they had to write a lot in order to pay the rent and keep food on the table.
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And H.G. Wells great grandson Simon was the director I believe.
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I'll have to stick up for E.E.Smith. He single-handedly create space opera.
His scale may be larger than what most people prefer, but he was different than anything before him. |
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