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Old 10-06-2024, 03:36 AM   #31
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Thanks xyclonei & DNSB.

I'll try the Wikititionary.

To be clear...prior to my screwup and "upgrade" to the 2019 dictionary, my normal "English" dictionary had the etymology descriptions. I did not have a "Custom" dictionary.

Now, after my factory reset, the "English" dictionary says 2024 at the bottom, and the "English (Custom) dictionary -- from the first page of this post -- does not have a date and neither one has the etymology.

I guess my point is that the 2019 version does NOT have the etymology sections as someone had stated above. At least, not what can be downloaded from this post.

I was hoping that someone who has a..normal?...English dictionary that HAS the etymology could share the link where they got it.

Sadly, I don't have backups.

EDIT: Wow. I like the Wikititionary version. I replaced the "English" dictionary instead of using it as the "Custom" and it's working almost as well as what I used yesterday.

It's odd to see the etymology on top rather than the end, but I'm ok with that.

Thank you xyclonei, I can now proceed to drink my Champagne and toast all the people in my past.
Glad you like the Wiktionary!

It's updated bimonthly (around the 5th and 25th) with more definitions being added.

And if you've managed to recover the 2019 ODE, perhaps you could drop it into the custom-dict folder so that a future update does not overwrite it?
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Old 10-06-2024, 05:50 PM   #32
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Ah. I thought you were referring to the first page of this post. The link provided by rtiangha, on the first page, is labeled thus: English (Oxford University Press 2019)
That link still worked but was to the older version (v2??) of the ODE. I modified the link to add the v3 so it now gets the 2024 version.

Anyone else who sees this message, I updated all the links that were not already pointing to the v3 versions to do so but this likely means that the dictionary version does not match the description.
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Old 10-07-2024, 07:31 PM   #33
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@DNSB

FYI. I just got my Clara BW today and dumped a bunch of books in it after all the updates.

The Oxford it updated to is the 2024 version, with no etymological references. Can I assume that's the version the link is for?
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Old 10-07-2024, 08:53 PM   #34
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Yes, Kobo has updated the dictionary downloads, so the only way to have the 2019 version is to have an older Kobo that hasn't been online since the dictionary update was made.
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Old 10-09-2024, 06:20 AM   #35
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Hi,
i'm following (lurking ) mobileread forum since long time but never posted.

https://mega.nz/file/DYQXxCAL#N3j3Ce...T40hnkHgvLeuWo there is working a copy of English Oxford Dictionary dated 2019 directly exctracted from my kobo which hasn't been connected to internet since December 2023.

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Hi,
i'm following (lurking ) mobileread forum since long time but never posted.

https://mega.nz/file/DYQXxCAL#N3j3Ce...T40hnkHgvLeuWo there is working a copy of English Oxford Dictionary dated 2019 directly exctracted from my kobo which hasn't been connected to internet since December 2023.

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Old 10-13-2024, 09:25 AM   #37
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I've upgraded to the new Oxford 2024 version and saved (in custom-dict) the 2019 version.
It seemed that Kobo did went for a cheaper dict version: not only the entymology is missing (and sadly missed), but I also already encountered several words which are missing in the new 2024 version but *are* present in the old 2019 version.
Well, I did too add the wikitionary (@xyclonei: great find ), so all in all I'm reasonable happy.
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If you still have a copy of the dicthtml.zip file for the old version, you can copy it to the .kobo/custom-dict directory. When you look in Settings => Language and dictionaries => Dictionary and tap on edit on your Kobo, you should see an English dictionary with file size 12.4MB and and English (Custom) dictionary with a file size of 15.0MB. When you look up a word, you will see the newer dictionary but if you click on dropdown arrow beside English at the top of the popup, you can select English (Custom) for the older dictionary. You can also place the older dictionary in the dict folder but that copy will be overwritten at some point when you connect to Kobo.
I've successfully done this now. The only issue is that when I rename the 2019 version English (Custom) it does not appear. I have to leave it as dicthtml (custom) for it to appear on the drop down list when I long press a word.

I extracted the 2019 dictionary from my Kobo Libra 2, which has not been connected to WiFi for nearly 6 months .

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I've successfully done this now. The only issue is that when I rename the 2019 version English (Custom) it does not appear. I have to leave it as dicthtml (custom) for it to appear on the drop down list when I long press a word.
You do not need to add the (Custom). This is automatically added to the name of dictionaries in the custom dictionary folder. The name of the dictionary is generated from the file name (dicthml.zip is English, dicthtml-de.zip is German, dicthmtl-de-en.zip is German-English for example).
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You do not need to add the (Custom). This is automatically added to the name of dictionaries in the custom dictionary folder. The name of the dictionary is generated from the file name (dicthml.zip is English, dicthtml-de.zip is German, dicthmtl-de-en.zip is German-English for example).
Well I will leave it as it is, as I know this particular name works on my Kobo.

I am revelling in having the 2019 version back. It's so much fuller and richer, not just the etymology, but also derivatives and contextual information, plus the use of bold and italics to distinguish between parts of the entry.

The only thing that makes sense in my mind for the 2024 version is that they wanted to prioritise non native English speakers who have reached a level of fluency to use an English-English dictionary but who just want a plain no frills definition of a word.

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It's also possible that Kobo just had to pay less to use a gimped version.
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It's also possible that Kobo just had to pay less to use a gimped version.
Yes, this also.

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are there any upsides, vocabulary-wise, to the new version? New entries, perhaps?
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are there any upsides, vocabulary-wise, to the new version? New entries, perhaps?
Nothing I've seen, if anything there are fewer entries in the 2024 one.

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