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Old 11-17-2011, 03:48 PM   #16
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Oh you mean that piece of paper with a hard to read writing that begins by "We the people ..." ?
It turns out it was written on April the 1st and was nothing more than an April's fools joke.
I think he's referring to the first amendment to that particular paper. The one that says "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press"

Since this new one they want to pass doesn't actually abridge the freedom of speech, but only the freedom of streaming, the above mentioned piece of paper does not apply. As always whenever corporations with lots of money want something legislated.

(Yes, there was lots of sarcasm there. The "land of the free", my foot. The land of whoever has the most funds, more like.)
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Old 11-17-2011, 05:04 PM   #17
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I thought you guys had some piece of paper that protected free speech?
It's always been a bit dicey. Free speech is easy when it doesn't anger the majority or limit someone's profits. When it does, the list of exceptions is pulled out of the drawer.
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Old 11-19-2011, 04:07 AM   #18
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...and when this act fails to stop piracy, the media industries will lobby for even more control.
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Old 11-20-2011, 08:40 PM   #19
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Hmmm.. Will Karaoke be banned next I know it's not streamed but the principal is the same.
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Old 11-20-2011, 08:50 PM   #20
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Hmmm.. Will Karaoke be banned next I know it's not streamed but the principal is the same.
Bad comparison... I suspect more in favour of that than the current attacks on copyright...
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Old 11-20-2011, 10:20 PM   #21
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Hmmm.. Will Karaoke be banned next I know it's not streamed but the principal is the same.
Or loud music emanating from teenagers iPod powered headphones. That constitutes an unapproved public broadcast does it not?

Mind you the music....uhhhh.....
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Old 11-20-2011, 10:33 PM   #22
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Or loud music emanating from teenagers iPod powered headphones. That constitutes an unapproved public broadcast does it not?
Considering the type of music that I've heard? Yes. It is definitely unapproved.
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Old 11-22-2011, 11:06 AM   #23
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Congress can pass any law they want to. But thent eh courts will decide whether or not it is allowed.

And many times Congress (or state legislatures) ahve passed laws that are clearly in violation of the constitution.
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Old 11-23-2011, 01:00 AM   #24
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Congress can pass any law they want to. But thent eh courts will decide whether or not it is allowed.

And many times Congress (or state legislatures) ahve passed laws that are clearly in violation of the constitution.
Yeah, but sometimes it will be years or even decades before a law is overturned in court.
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Old 11-23-2011, 02:19 AM   #25
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Disgraceful and doomed to failure. It will be yet one more bad law if it gets through. It ranks right up there with the man with the red flag being required to walk in front of those newfangled horseless carriages. A longstanding and profitable business model has become obsolete, and the vested interests struggle to preserve it. No matter what the cost!
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Old 11-23-2011, 03:09 AM   #26
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microsoft as well as google are against it. i think this bill will quietly die because those companies have far more pull than hollywood or the recording industry these days.
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Old 11-23-2011, 06:42 PM   #27
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^ Unfortunately the pharmaceuticals are also lobbying for this bill. They want to stop people from getting their drugs for less from international sources.

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Old 11-24-2011, 03:53 AM   #28
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^ Unfortunately the pharmaceuticals are also lobbying for this bill. They want to stop people from getting their drugs for less from international sources.
Ouch. Big-Pharma usually gets what it wants. I'm impressed by the media corp's strategy of combining forces.

If it the law passes and is signed, I wouldn't be surprised to see a surge in inexpensive, encrypted, anonymized VPN services.
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Old 11-26-2011, 06:44 PM   #29
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When do we know it passes or not ?
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Old 11-29-2011, 03:37 PM   #30
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When the Internet falls apart, that'll be a clear indicator that it has passed. Beyond that I'm not sure.
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