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Thank you for the lecture, but you shouldn't assume you know where I stand from a few comments on a board about books.
The question is did NBC interview all the employees involved and what percentage prefer the old way versus the new? When I read quotes like “We’ve heard from our hourly fulfillment and customer service employees that they prefer the predictability and immediacy of cash to RSUs,” should I assume Amazon is lying? None of us has enough data to know which way is better for the employees impacted. |
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There isn't a company around that does not have disgruntled employees. And at different times there are different disgruntled employees. I would be surprised if there weren't disgruntled employees at a company paying employees $100,000.00 and hour.
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And you are correct, there exist employees making that kind of money (through stock options and grants) and some are still upset enough to quit. The "problem" with Amazon salaries was never an HR problem but rather a political problem so they attacked it like a politician does things: give with one hand while taking with the other. They just timed the announcements to maximum effect. |
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In general, minimum wage is a way for unskilled labor to get their foot in the door, gaining experience and skills. Few people stay at minimum wage for long. |
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Let's face it: for every person who complained to the media about Amazon's "horrible employment practices", there are countless others who—while maybe not ecstatic with their current situation—are content to come to work and do their job without being overly bitter about their lot (and just maybe a few are ecstatic). But nobody wants to talk to those people. They're boring. So what we have are articles generated by the testimony of a handful of ne'er-do-wells and as a result, Amazon has a reputation of "mistreatment and a lack of human decency and/or respect." Sorry, but I'm not buying it. I don't think Amazon farts rainbows or anything like that, but I believe their compensation packages have always been well within (if not above) the norm for similar jobs in other companies. Compensation has never been based on what a particular company can afford to pay its employees. |
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If you look up the worst companies to work for Amazon isn't even close to being the worst and yet reading this thread makes it seem like they must be the slightly better than being employed by Satan as a greeter to Hell.
Here is a list of 15 by Cheat Sheet. https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-car...mployees.html/ Apache |
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According to "The Everything Store: Jeff Bezos and the Age of Internet" for one.
https://www.amazon.com/Everything-St...erything+store and the NY Times for another https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/16/t...workplace.html (try googling Amazon crying at desk for more such stories) |
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There are a lot of businesses that are lousy places to work. Just because a company isn't on to 15 worse places list doesn't make it a great place to work, any more than not being on the top 15 places to work makes a company a lousy place to work. I'm not real surprised that Kroger is on the list, since most of the local Krogers aren't exactly filled with happy employees who greet shoppers with a smile. On the other hand, I'm told that Krogers up in Ohio, where Kroger is based, are much better and are rated much higher with the local shoppers. Sometimes the further you get from the headquarters, the more variable the experience. Companies tend to rise and fall as good or bad places to work over time as well as management focus changes and as employees feel secure in their job verses that they might get laid off any day. |
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