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Old 09-18-2021, 01:18 PM   #31
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Select first entry and go back a page?

It's what I have to do on the Word processor as the first heading is at the start of the actual text.
Well, in Word, et al, you CAN use a heading style for the TOC, of course, which would put that on the document map or nav pane or whatever it's being called these days. ;-)

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Old 09-19-2021, 06:39 AM   #32
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Well, in Word, et al, you CAN use a heading style for the TOC, of course, which would put that on the document map or nav pane or whatever it's being called these days. ;-)

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Yes, but I deliberately don't make "Contents" be a heading; I have a few paragraph styles for visual headings that are text/body level so things that look like headings are not added to TOC (NCX), or visual Contents page automatically or manually created from Heading Levels. Nor to do I link headings back to the visible Contents entry. I think both are pointless. Some ereaders don't even support links, but do have system TOC (NCX) and jump to beginning.

I've started adding a QR code for external links, which works on paper and any ereader if you have something that can read QR codes and use the Internet.

My first check of an ebook is in Calibre Viewer. I check that the system TOC/NCX matches the headings document map in Word or LO Writer. Then I check that they go to the correct places.
Then I check other internal and external links.

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Old 09-19-2021, 06:25 PM   #33
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Yes, but I deliberately don't make "Contents" be a heading; I have a few paragraph styles for visual headings that are text/body level so things that look like headings are not added to TOC (NCX), or visual Contents page automatically or manually created from Heading Levels. Nor to do I link headings back to the visible Contents entry. I think both are pointless. Some ereaders don't even support links, but do have system TOC (NCX) and jump to beginning.

I've started adding a QR code for external links, which works on paper and any ereader if you have something that can read QR codes and use the Internet.

My first check of an ebook is in Calibre Viewer. I check that the system TOC/NCX matches the headings document map in Word or LO Writer. Then I check that they go to the correct places.
Then I check other internal and external links.
Yabbut, my point was, during the "working on the file" period, it's easiness itself to simply use indicated heading styles (e.g. "Heading_temp") so that everything you want to readily find is on the NavMap. Then change them when you're ready to rock with a simple S&R, searching for that style and replacing it with the text/paragraph style of your preference. Two Steps.

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Old 09-20-2021, 08:33 AM   #34
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Yabbut, my point was, during the "working on the file" period, it's easiness itself to simply use indicated heading styles etc Two Steps.

One more thing to remember to undo and I'd hardly ever want to jump to the human readible Contents page anyway! I might use a real Heading level for Front matter pages and Contents page on the version edited for paper.
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One more thing to remember to undo and I'd hardly ever want to jump to the human readible Contents page anyway! I might use a real Heading level for Front matter pages and Contents page on the version edited for paper.
Okay, one more "I meant...": I meant, if you are working on a very long, complicated document like I used to, using heading styles and outline mode is pretty much everything. I used them for frontmatter and the like all the time, even if I wasn't going to be using them later on, in the final document/book/whatever. (We did an 1800 page book, at my company, and for a variety of reasons, some amount of cleanup had to be done in Word, first. Trust me, the nav map was the end-all, be-all, along with outline mode.)

I realize we're talking book processing here, but for very long tomes, headings+outline mode +/- the nav map can save your sanity.

That's all. I won't belabor it even more at this point. :-)

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Old 09-20-2021, 09:53 AM   #36
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Okay, one more "I meant...": I meant, if you are working on a very long, complicated document like I used to, using heading styles and outline mode is pretty much everything.
I absolutely agree. Totally. Without reservation!
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