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Old 04-13-2013, 06:08 PM   #121
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If you are working on the Desktop mode and want to open a new desktop app, it is now more convoluted...
How is it more convoluted? Click the Windows button, click the icon of your program. Done.

If it's a program you don't launch often, and hence don't have its icon on your Metro screen, then: Windows button, right-click, select all apps, click the icon. Done.

Or even better: Windows button, type the first letter of the program name, click the icon. Done.

By my count, however you slice it, that's either the same number of steps or fewer than with Windows 7.
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:49 PM   #122
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I talked to one person at the airport who had an iPad and had all sorts of business and presentation apps on hers - I guess you have to use some sort of adapter to hook it up to a computer projector though, since iPads don't have usb ports.
AppleTV + Airplay for the above. All thats needed is an HDMI input for the aTV to plug into.

I do wordprocessing on my iPad, I bought a Logitech Ultrathin BT keyboard. I'm a touch typist and got used to it fairly quickly. the combo is much lighter than my Macbook Pro was (I sold that, and got a Mini instead) but its still a bit too heavy to be carting about. I'll be out and about on Monday and will take the iPad sans keyboard, because IMO the combo still needs a table, not a lap.
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Old 04-13-2013, 07:53 PM   #123
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You've said no, then agreed with me?
Very trollish behavior.
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Old 04-13-2013, 07:55 PM   #124
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So you can buy a 500 dollar notebook but will not pay 5 dollars USD for a start button or download a free program that will give you a windows 7 start up?
Or I can keep using Win 7 until Win 9 comes out. It's not a new idea that every other version of Windows sucks rocks. It's not 100%, but it's close, like odd numbered Star Trek movies.
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Old 04-13-2013, 07:56 PM   #125
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You're a busy guy; in a previous thread it was 30+ years of retail experience.
Do you really believe that retailers don't use IT? Really? Seriously?
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Old 04-13-2013, 07:57 PM   #126
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That's crazy talk, Harry.
More insults and namecalling.
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Old 04-13-2013, 09:04 PM   #127
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More insults and namecalling.
Actually, that was sarcasm. I'll type slowly so you can follow along. Harry said something I agree with. Instead of thanking him for agreeing with me, I sarcastically said what we both believe is crazy. Hang in there, taustin.
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Old 04-13-2013, 10:24 PM   #128
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Or I can keep using Win 7 until Win 9 comes out. It's not a new idea that every other version of Windows sucks rocks. It's not 100%, but it's close, like odd numbered Star Trek movies.
No one is actually forcing you to use Windows 8, and I doubt that anyone is suggesting that you should use (or even like) Windows 8. There is however a bit of an issue over misinformation.

You may hate Windows 8, but that does not make it an inherently bad operating system. The thing is, a lot of the criticism of Windows 8 is based upon subjective matters. One person will agree with that criticism wholeheartedly, while the next will acknowledge it but view it as unimportant. A third person may deny the criticism because they actually like how it was designed. You may even have a given person agreeing with some criticisms and disagreeing with other criticisms.

So please accept that some people simply aren't going to agree with you because they simply don't share the same opinion as you.
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:34 PM   #129
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Actually, that was sarcasm.
I find your claim less than credible.
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:37 PM   #130
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You may hate Windows 8, but that does not make it an inherently bad operating system.
It isn't that I hate it, so much as I found it - literally - unusual for my purposes. This isn't opinion, this is objective observation. Good, bad, who cares? That makes it a useless operating system. Given the effect it's had on PC sales since it was release, apparently, I'm not alone.

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So please accept that some people simply aren't going to agree with you because they simply don't share the same opinion as you.
You should do the same.
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Old 04-14-2013, 12:48 AM   #131
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do not do gaming and most of what I do is software development and watching the odd movie at 1080p,
Me too.
I will read or write on my big desktop, but movies I fire over to the BIG TV in front of my own special beat up cushy chair in the den. And unlike the Movie Theater, the munchies and cokes are free.

That chair's frame was retrieved from a street pile. Basically it is a wooden platform to put cushions on to form up any kind of recliner you want. My wife would move it or toss it if I let her. I am like a StoneWall on that subject.
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Old 04-14-2013, 02:36 AM   #132
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I find your claim less than credible.
I don't know if my opinion means anything, but I read his post as being ironic, not contentious. Sort of like saying "Get out of here!" when you really understand something that's been said.

And I *am* able to see that the two of your are sniping at each other. I certainly am not picking up any playfulness from the interaction between you.
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Old 04-14-2013, 07:13 AM   #134
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Given the effect it's had on PC sales since it was release, apparently, I'm not alone.
There isn't any evidence to back that claim: correlations may suggest a causation, but they certainly do not prove that there is a causation. Frankly, I think that the thesis of Windows 8 hurting PC sales is absurd. How many people are going to say, "my computer's slow, but I'm not going to buy a faster computer with a faster operating system because the Start Screen is too confusing"? In the more extreme case, how many people are going to say, "my computer's broken, but I'm going to go without a computer because I don't like Windows 8?" I would suggest that very few people would fit into either category. There are far more likely hypotheses like tablets pillaging PC sales. Both of theories are opinions because neither one of us has proof to our claims. One of us may be right, both of us may be right, or both of us may be wrong.
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For what it's worth, while I was having problems with my WinXP laptop, it was still working. However, I was hearing some of the advance issues with Win8 a couple of months before it was released, so I went out and bought a new laptop so I could have Win7.

So in a way, Win8 sold a new PC, although not in the way meant on this thread.
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