Will it be good for my tired eyes

ragdoll · 11-05-2007, 11:31 AM

For me, the main reason for buying an ebook reader is that I have to read a lot of electronic publications, don't want to have always too tired eyes and don't want to waste tons of paper.
I need some advice from you owners of ebook readers. Is it true that an ebook reader will tire my eyes not more than a normal book?

HarryT · 11-05-2007, 11:33 AM

Yes, it's just like reading a normal book. No flicker, no light coming from the screen; just a static image like the page of a book.

AnemicOak · 11-05-2007, 11:37 AM

Yes, much easier on the eyes than a backlit screen. Pretty much just like reading from paper.

Are you in the US? If you have a Borders or Sony Style store near you then you can see & try a Sony Reader (PRS-505). Even if that's not the device you decide on the screen will be similar.

ragdoll · 11-05-2007, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by AnemicOak

Yes, much easier on the eyes than a backlit screen. Pretty much just like reading from paper.

Are you in the US? If you have a Borders or Sony Style store near you then you can see & try a Sony Reader (PRS-505). Even if that's not the device you decide on the screen will be similar.

No, sadly I'm not in the US. I live in Italy, there's no shop near me selling any ebook reader, because of that I need to do such silly question. But we have an official online dealer for the iLiad and that is the reader I want to buy.

NatCh · 11-05-2007, 11:43 AM

You mentioned that you're wanting to use an e-ink device to read electronic publications, ragdoll -- are those e-dox in PDF, by any chance? Things get ... a bit more complicated for PDF files, and I would want you to know what's involved before you invested in particular device.

NatCh · 11-05-2007, 11:45 AM

I see now that you're particularly considering the iLiad -- it's the generally considered to be the best currently available e-ink device for PDF files, but if that's what you're trying to view, there are still some things you'd be better off knowing in advance, but I'll let someone who has direct experience on the point address it.

ragdoll · 11-05-2007, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by NatCh

I see now that you're particularly considering the iLiad -- it's the generally considered to be the best currently available e-ink device for PDF files, but if that's what you're trying to view, there are still some things you'd be better off knowing in advance, but I'll let someone who has direct experience on the point address it.

Yes, I think I will read almost only PDF. Are there any problems with that?

wallcraft · 11-05-2007, 12:14 PM

PDFs are generally OK on the iLiad. Two threads with photos: Technical Document Examples and N00b questions.

Note that Secure Adobe e-books are not viewable on any current E-Ink device.

NatCh · 11-05-2007, 12:15 PM

Not problems, as such, just things you ought to know about before you spend €650.

Mostly it's things like you'll have to read some PDFs in landscape mode to be able to see the text. Things that will add a step or three. Mainly I want you to be aware of them so that they don't surprise you after you've made a purchase, and so that you can decide ahead of time if you are willing to deal with them or not.

But like I said, I'd rather let someone who actually has an iLiad comment on the details from direct experience, as I'd just be working from memory of what others have said on the matter, and I don't want to take the chance of giving you faulty information.

HappyMartin · 11-06-2007, 01:01 AM

Regarding readability. On Sunday I was showing someone my reader. They where skeptical about the technology saying they couldn't read off screens until they actually saw the display themselves. They looked at it for a few moments and then said "I want one". That says it for readability I think.

ElaHuguet · 11-09-2007, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ragdoll

Yes, I think I will read almost only PDF. Are there any problems with that?

As Natch says, not really a problem, only consider that most pdf's are formatted to an A4 paper, and the iLiad's screen is more or less A5, so by default you see the pdf at about 50% zoom, so sometimes the text can be too small to read comfortably, then you need to increase the zoom (which is possible, just zooming enough to eliminate the margins is often enough), or rotate it sideways to landscape mode and then read the top half of a page, bottom half, and then the next page. The iLiad will let you do all that, but Natch wants you to bear in mind that you'll have to do that (which is good advice).

ragdoll · 11-09-2007, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ElaHuguet

As Natch says, not really a problem, only consider that most pdf's are formatted to an A4 paper, and the iLiad's screen is more or less A5, so by default you see the pdf at about 50% zoom, so sometimes the text can be too small to read comfortably, then you need to increase the zoom (which is possible, just zooming enough to eliminate the margins is often enough), or rotate it sideways to landscape mode and then read the top half of a page, bottom half, and then the next page. The iLiad will let you do all that, but Natch wants you to bear in mind that you'll have to do that (which is good advice).

Thank you for your advices. I got some information on the reading of PDF's and especially technical documents, which will be the majority of the socuments I will read. I found out on this forum that there is a version of iPDF whichi gives the possibility to read multi-column documents autozooming on single columns.
This is the solution, so I don't have to worry about PDF, technical documents, etc.

DaleDe · 11-09-2007, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ragdoll

Thank you for your advices. I got some information on the reading of PDF's and especially technical documents, which will be the majority of the socuments I will read. I found out on this forum that there is a version of iPDF whichi gives the possibility to read multi-column documents autozooming on single columns.
This is the solution, so I don't have to worry about PDF, technical documents, etc.

Just so you know, nothing it PDF is every perfect. The PDF standard has many wrinkles and some of them are ugly. It can show its roots from PS and pagemaker. MobiPocket created an import PDF tool for their Windows reader because they could find nothing else and theirs also has significant problems and will not work on all documents or won't get the text and images in the correct order.

One of the biggest gatcha's is that PDF is also a container for images and these images can be scanned text so what you believe is text could be an image instead. This can be a big surprise when you try and convert the document.

Dale

11-05-2007, 11:31 AM	#1
ragdoll Connoisseur Posts: 66 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2007 Device: iRex iLiad V1	Will it be good for my tired eyes For me, the main reason for buying an ebook reader is that I have to read a lot of electronic publications, don't want to have always too tired eyes and don't want to waste tons of paper. I need some advice from you owners of ebook readers. Is it true that an ebook reader will tire my eyes not more than a normal book?

11-05-2007, 11:43 AM	#5
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	One Big Caveat! You mentioned that you're wanting to use an e-ink device to read electronic publications, ragdoll -- are those e-dox in PDF, by any chance? Things get ... a bit more complicated for PDF files, and I would want you to know what's involved before you invested in particular device.

11-06-2007, 01:01 AM	#10
HappyMartin Martin Kristiansen Posts: 1,546 Karma: 8480958 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Johannesburg Device: Kindle International Ipad 2	readability Regarding readability. On Sunday I was showing someone my reader. They where skeptical about the technology saying they couldn't read off screens until they actually saw the display themselves. They looked at it for a few moments and then said "I want one". That says it for readability I think.

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AnemicOak Bookaholic Posts: 14,391 Karma: 54969924 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minnesota Device: iPad Mini 4, AuraHD, iPhone XR +	Yes, much easier on the eyes than a backlit screen. Pretty much just like reading from paper. Are you in the US? If you have a Borders or Sony Style store near you then you can see & try a Sony Reader (PRS-505). Even if that's not the device you decide on the screen will be similar.

11-05-2007, 11:45 AM	#6
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	I see now that you're particularly considering the iLiad -- it's the generally considered to be the best currently available e-ink device for PDF files, but if that's what you're trying to view, there are still some things you'd be better off knowing in advance, but I'll let someone who has direct experience on the point address it.

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wallcraft reader Posts: 6,975 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3, Kobo Glo HD	PDFs are generally OK on the iLiad. Two threads with photos: Technical Document Examples and N00b questions. Note that Secure Adobe e-books are not viewable on any current E-Ink device.

11-05-2007, 12:15 PM	#9
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	Not problems, as such, just things you ought to know about before you spend €650. Mostly it's things like you'll have to read some PDFs in landscape mode to be able to see the text. Things that will add a step or three. Mainly I want you to be aware of them so that they don't surprise you after you've made a purchase, and so that you can decide ahead of time if you are willing to deal with them or not. But like I said, I'd rather let someone who actually has an iLiad comment on the details from direct experience, as I'd just be working from memory of what others have said on the matter, and I don't want to take the chance of giving you faulty information.