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Old 05-29-2023, 08:56 PM   #1
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Post New Feature Proposal - Leverage ChatGPT AI for Automatic Book Summary and Analysis

Feature Suggestion: Incorporate an AI-powered tool, such as ChatGPT, to automatically generate book summaries, conduct analysis, and create descriptive tags.

Purpose: The goal of this feature would be to offer an efficient, AI-led way to analyze ebooks, producing succinct summaries and more PERSONALIZED & in-depth tags for each book/research paper in a library.

Possible workflow:

The user chooses a book or several books for analysis.
Clicks on a new 'Analyze' button.
A prompt box appears asking the user for an analytical direction or focus.
The AI performs the analysis based on the provided prompt, and as a result, it crafts a summary and produces thematic tags.
The AI then stores this newly generated summary in a secondary abstract field and assigns the new tags to the book(s).

The addition of this feature could dramatically improve Calibre's metadata handling, especially for sizable libraries. It would also make the process of adding rich, useful tags to ebooks simpler and more systematic, in place of the current method which can sometimes lead to an untidy accumulation of varied and subjective tags.

Furthermore, it would significantly aid targeted research within the library, adjusting according to the user's distinct interests and focus. For example, users could effortlessly identify common themes, discern patterns in an author's writing style, detect genre trends, and much more, across their entire ebook collection.

I firmly believe that this feature would be highly beneficial for researchers like myself, students, and passionate readers who are looking to gain more insights from their ebook collection and browse it more efficiently.

I kindly request you to consider this feature suggestion. I am confident that it would offer a fresh perspective to the Calibre user experience, while keeping up with the latest advancements in AI and machine learning.

I'm eager to hear your thoughts about this feature and any plans you might have to implement it.
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Old 05-30-2023, 07:34 AM   #2
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Absolutely not.

People can use unreliable toys like that outside Calibre.

No current "AI tool" will "automatically generate book summaries, conduct analysis, and create descriptive tags" that are definitively correct. They can't as they have no comprehension. The tools have content scraped from the Internent (with no curation of copyright, reliability, honesty, fact, fiction etc), chopped up and regurgitated.

Also it's environmentally damaging.

It's of zero benefit except as a toy, or maybe for marketing / political material where the publishers don't care about the accuracy or honesty.
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Old 05-30-2023, 10:28 AM   #3
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Old 05-30-2023, 11:04 AM   #4
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Absolutely not.

People can use unreliable toys like that outside Calibre.

No current "AI tool" will "automatically generate book summaries, conduct analysis, and create descriptive tags" that are definitively correct. They can't as they have no comprehension. The tools have content scraped from the Internent (with no curation of copyright, reliability, honesty, fact, fiction etc), chopped up and regurgitated.

Also it's environmentally damaging.

It's of zero benefit except as a toy, or maybe for marketing / political material where the publishers don't care about the accuracy or honesty.
Right with you Quoth.

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Old 05-30-2023, 12:55 PM   #5
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Absolutely not.

People can use unreliable toys like that outside Calibre.

No current "AI tool" will "automatically generate book summaries, conduct analysis, and create descriptive tags" that are definitively correct. They can't as they have no comprehension. The tools have content scraped from the Internent (with no curation of copyright, reliability, honesty, fact, fiction etc), chopped up and regurgitated.

Also it's environmentally damaging.

It's of zero benefit except as a toy, or maybe for marketing / political material where the publishers don't care about the accuracy or honesty.
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Old 05-30-2023, 02:05 PM   #6
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Feature Suggestion: Incorporate an AI-powered tool, such as ChatGPT, to automatically generate book summaries, conduct analysis, and create descriptive tags.
@mikhail.fil - there's some discussion in the Plugin-ideas thread that might interest you, starts half way down this page ==>> https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...18781&page=116

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Old 05-30-2023, 05:21 PM   #7
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I'll agree with Quoth as well.
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Old 05-30-2023, 07:15 PM   #8
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Current AIs are dumber than the guy who roasted lard. I'd wait for 15-20 years, at least.
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Old 05-30-2023, 09:33 PM   #9
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Quite apart from the dead-end nature of the current approach to AI, this isn't feasible even if the AIs were actually intelligent since they can only be prompted with very limited amounts of text at the moment. Maybe that will change in the future, but currently as far as I know there is no way to ask the AI a question involving thousands of pages of text.
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Old 05-31-2023, 02:29 PM   #10
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ChatGPT just plain lies. e.g. It will claim to have written something, such as a student’s essay, but if you ask it again it will contradict itself and say it had nothing to do with it.

These AIs are language models, which are superficially very eloquent, but have no understanding of the subject matter, cannot distinguish the truth from fiction, and will happily bullshit an answer in convincing prose.
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Old 05-31-2023, 03:20 PM   #11
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ChatGPT just plain lies.
This.

In one case, it listed Washington Post articles that didn't exist that claimed a law professor had been accused of molesting a student on a trip to Alaska. An accusation that was never placed, on a trip that never happened, and quoted a Washington Post article that doesn't exist.

[You can google up the name Jonathan Turley]

The lastest is a lawyer now in trouble for using it to create a list of lawsuits lost by airlines over injuries. He persented it for his client, only to find out that ChatGPT had made up the cases. The judge was not amused, and now the lawyer's in trouble for handing in fake information.

[You can google Steven A. Schwartz]

It's creating fake references and sources to go along with what's it's presenting to you, and confirming that it's all legit.

I have a feeling we're going to be hearing about a lot more fake info from it soon.
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Old 06-02-2023, 11:33 PM   #12
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There is no need to make that an official feature. But just to clarify if I understand correctly, I could theoretically just hire someone to create a plugin for me to do this? Would I need to get any type of license in order to do that?
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Old 06-03-2023, 01:24 AM   #13
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calibre is open source and you can do what you want with it as long as it complies with the license calibre is released under.
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Old 06-03-2023, 02:27 AM   #14
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The/re is no need to make that an official feature. But just to clarify if I understand correctly, I could theoretically just hire someone to create a plugin for me to do this? Would I need to get any type of license in order to do that?
One of the participants in the thread I referenced in post #6 poses the following question:

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Would anyone be interested in a plugin that uses an AI to generate a short book summary (and/or a summary of the critical response) for the selected book?

I've already created the plugin…
I get the impression you didn't even look at the thread. Rather than arguing with those who say something can't/shouldn't be done, you could try engaging with someone who's already done it.

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Old 06-03-2023, 05:54 AM   #15
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There is no need to make that an official feature. But just to clarify if I understand correctly, I could theoretically just hire someone to create a plugin for me to do this? Would I need to get any type of license in order to do that?
Anyone can write and distribute a plugin for calibre. There is no license required.
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