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Old 08-15-2021, 02:58 PM   #1
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PineNote 10.3" 227dpi e-ink with Wacom announced

Pine64.org has announced a 10.3" 1404x1872 e-ink device with Wacom layer to be available later this year for $399. This will probably be a work in progress for quite some time after initial release, so anyone wanting a polished product ready for prime time doesn't need to read any further. But anyone interested in user freedom might want to keep an eye on progress. (And, of course, the priority of open drivers means the CPU and GPU won't have top tier performance.)

https://www.pine64.org/2021/08/15/in...-the-pinenote/

https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/PineNote
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Old 08-15-2021, 06:03 PM   #2
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Pine64.org has announced a 10.3" 1404x1872 e-ink device with Wacom layer to be available later this year for $399. ...
My nephew tried to make a PinePhone work for him — he gave it five or six months and finally gave up on it. So I'm a little jaded about this outfit. But I like the idea PineNote and I hope it works out for folks.
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Old 08-16-2021, 07:44 PM   #3
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My nephew tried to make a PinePhone work for him — he gave it five or six months and finally gave up on it. So I'm a little jaded about this outfit. But I like the idea PineNote and I hope it works out for folks.
pine64.org has not yet claimed that the pinephone is ready for use as a phone. Wakeup for incoming calls, audio quality, battery drain, and charging are all problems, but progress is being made on all of them. Getting apps to fit on the screen also needs some work. To be fair, the much more expensive Purism Librem 5 not only has similar problems but also has very long wait times to buy.

A consumer ready pinenote will take some time, but I have high hopes for both it and the pinephone. A lot of community members are donating quite a bit of good work and pine64.org has been good about incorporating the best of it and even providing free hardware to some.
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Old 08-17-2021, 01:35 PM   #4
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My nephew tried to make a PinePhone work for him — he gave it five or six months and finally gave up on it. So I'm a little jaded about this outfit.
In general, aren't Pine64 devices intended for developers and enthusiasts?

I don't see any Pine device ever really working for me. But I'm glad they manage to continue to put stuff out.
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In general, aren't Pine64 devices intended for developers and enthusiasts?
Pretty much, but they are aiming for them eventually have reliable full functionality and easily usable by the general population, but have no illusions that more than a few percent will ever be attracted. There is enough demand now that they are setting up retail availability but are waiting for functionality and reliability to improve enough to avoid high return rates and support calls.

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I don't see any Pine device ever really working for me. But I'm glad they manage to continue to put stuff out.
If you ever want a beefy USB charger or a soldering iron you might want to check out Pine64's offerings.
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The e-ink display on the PineNote is now supported by the mainline linux kernel.

https://fosstodon.org/@PINE64/107566967950259308
https://cdn.fosstodon.org/media_atta...9de2fbfa99.jpg

(It will probably be quite some time before the PineNote is running linux new out of the box.)
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Old 01-06-2022, 08:42 PM   #7
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Still anxiously waiting to see the first device with e-ink's On-Cell screen. I'm guessing it might be Boox who will be first to implement the new screens when they refresh their lineup. Seems like the biggest advancement since the Pearl to Carta transition- 30% contrast improvement.

Still waiting.....
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Old 01-06-2022, 10:27 PM   #8
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Only PineNote related news in this thread, please. There are 9000+ other news threads.
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Old 01-16-2022, 01:51 PM   #9
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News on the current state of PineNote development at
https://www.pine64.org/2022/01/15/ja...ate-more-news/
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There has been more progress on the PineNote (but it is still not ready for even enthusiasts yet).
https://www.pine64.org/2022/02/15/fe...h-the-machine/
(lots of scrolling to get to PineNote section).

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  • Plasma Desktop now runs on the PineNote with a grayscale UI theme; porting of first applications has began – you are invited and encouraged to join and contribute to the effort
  • postmarketOS has been ported to the PineNote; works well with a choice of Phosh or SXMO
  • Although much work is yet needed, we’ve reached the point where all device hardware works (thanks to work by smaeul and pgwipeout); new driver exposes all e-paper modes and EMR pen pressure works in Linux
  • Work yet needed to enable GPU acceleration on the e-paper display (works with other output modes)
Details and lots of pictures at the source.
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Old 04-24-2022, 02:17 PM   #11
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Apparently, the PineNote as delivered comes with a basic non-optimized, but fully functional Android installation, and is already capable enough if just reading is the main intended use for it.

Here is a recent video by one of the developers showing an overview of the preinstalled Android, taken before he finally replaced it with a Linux system for development:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWuTGgQHw98

Please note the koreader icon on the bottom left side: If koreader can be installed, any reader device becomes worthwhile.

Since the current PineNote developer edition can also be freely purchased since quite a while by more adventurous non-developers at pine64.com/product/pinenote-developer-edition, it could turn out to be a much more future proof investment buying one of these instead of just yet another iteration of locked down consumer devices by Boyue, Boox, etc.

A pity though, that the PineNote has no SD card slot and there don't seem to be any plans including one with later hardware revisions.

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Latest PineNote update is at:
https://www.pine64.org/2022/06/28/ju...-likes-risc-v/
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  • Linux on the PineNote is now in a good shape
  • Major developments for the e-paper display – work by Smaeul on the driver detailed
  • It is now possible to write using EMR pen on the PineNote running Linux in a standard Debian installation
  • Showcase of smooth (quickly appearing) handwriting
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There has been no PineNote news posted on the PINE64 blog for months and nothing of note or much at all in the PineNote subforums. There was a disappointing comment in the comments section of this month's post in the PINE64 blog in response to a comment asking about PineNote progress

https://www.pine64.org/2022/10/15/oc.../#comment-6903

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There are two people working on PineNote software, their work is spread across about fourteen github repos, and you can select which functionality does not work by switching among repos. There’s pretty much nobody doing any integration work, so doing anything at all is a process of cross-compiling on a real computer followed by hours of screwing around with a usb-serial connection. Most people just use the stock android.
https://www.pine64.org/2022/10/15/oc.../#comment-6895
https://www.pine64.org/2022/10/15/oc...an-ox-no-bull/
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I really hope this works out in the end. Judging from the PinePhone, though, I don't have high hopes.

I would love to buy a 300 PPI version of this even with slightly buggy software to try it out, especially if it had buttons (page turn, home, settings, whatnot).
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And now on top of everything else, the PineNote is out of stock:
https://pine64.com/product/pinenote-developer-edition/

Yeah, I'm stating to get worried about the PinePhone as well. On top of the slow progress to date, Pine64 has recently pissed off a bunch of developers by giving preferential treatment to Manjaro.
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