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Old 06-03-2023, 02:45 PM   #16
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One of the participants in the thread I referenced in post #6 poses the following question:



I get the impression you didn't even look at the thread. Rather than arguing with those who say something can't/shouldn't be done, you could try engaging with someone who's already done it.

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The irony. I have not made even one argument with anyone here, so it appears that you didn't really look through this thread as you would have noticed that I only made the initial question.

I did go to that thread, and may have missed that point. I am completely new to this "forum" format, and just learning how everything works here.

I appreciate you pointing out that someone made that plugin, and I will go there now.

Just because my question elicited an argumentative response, this doesn't mean that this was my intent.
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Old 06-03-2023, 04:07 PM   #17
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The irony. I have not made even one argument with anyone here, so it appears that you didn't really look through this thread as you would have noticed that I only made the initial question.

I did go to that thread, and may have missed that point. I am completely new to this "forum" format, and just learning how everything works here.

I appreciate you pointing out that someone made that plugin, and I will go there now.

Just because my question elicited an argumentative response, this doesn't mean that this was my intent.
I didn't think, even for a moment, that argument was your intent, if I had I wouldn't have posted a reply. Look for the recent replies in the plugin ideas thread from member "Bradles".

Added: I see you found it

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Old 09-30-2023, 03:23 PM   #18
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Came back to agree that all who said it was a crazy idea were right - ChatGpt bulshits so much, it's scary. If you don't know the topic, you won't be able to decipher the lies either.

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Came back to agree that all who said it was a crazy idea were right - ChatGpt bulshits so much, it's scary. If you don't know the topic, you won't be able to decipher the lies either.
I find it really good that you tried it out, drew your conclusions and shared them with us. Thank you!
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Quite apart from the dead-end nature of the current approach to AI, this isn't feasible even if the AIs were actually intelligent since they can only be prompted with very limited amounts of text at the moment. Maybe that will change in the future, but currently as far as I know there is no way to ask the AI a question involving thousands of pages of text.
Even local language models can't be prompted with large texts, I found recently, to my dismay. That's the key point, as Kovid pointed out.

As for AI hallucinating, in my experience with small texts, I find it does quite a good job
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AI doesn't hallucinate. It fails.
It doesn't learn. It's fed data, either files or via web links, by parasite owners.
It produces plausible junk because it has no concept of fact or fiction, because that's too much work for the human owners. There is no understanding.

All the terms are chosen to misdirect.

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I hear Bard now has a fact-checking button:
https://wondertools.substack.com/p/5...to-use-bard-ai

But I use mostly OpenAI's ChatGPT.
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AI doesn't hallucinate.
um.. I've just witnessed an example of AI hallucinating..

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It a failure of the software. It's a program + database that's incapable of thought or hallucination. That's a marketing term to excuse that it's an over hyped system created by a parasitical corporation.
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It a failure of the software. It's a program + database that's incapable of thought or hallucination. That's a marketing term to excuse that it's an over hyped system created by a parasitical corporation.
Don't be coy. Tell how you really feel about AI.
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https://futurism.com/critics-microso...ain-ai-drought

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Then there is the electricity.

After the "training" the queries (end user) also use a lot of cooling water and electricity.

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So you want to feed AI more copyrighted work for the AI to enhance its own data repository from which it can create even more copyright-violating derivative works? I'd rather not put Calibre in the spotlight of authors and publishers who are finally beginning to challenge AI that uses their works without consent and without royalties.
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