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Old 01-21-2014, 02:13 AM   #1
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Question joining usa libraries from outside of USA ?

is this still possible?
I found some info on this forum for joining free library of philadelphia but it is a 2011 thread & points to a 2011 blog at the library site ?

I am looking to join something that has a larger selection than my local UK library, I don't mind an annual fee.

there are some authors where I'd like to re-read their full series, in order, & not the poor quality scanned version from dodgy sites: e.g. Laurel K Hamilton, Ian Rankin..

can't get these as e-books from UK libraries & there are too many to buy them all...
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Old 01-21-2014, 03:46 AM   #2
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Yes, it is. Free Library of Filadelfia (50 $ yearly, 6 checkout) and Brooking Public Library (50$ yearly, 10 checkout overdrive, 10 checkout 3M). I think Orange County in Florida too, but it is 125$
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thanks- is the any up to date information on how to apply / how to pay ?
I found the pdf application form on P. library site but nothing about what to do if you are not in USA. So I have sent it to the email address in the 2011 thread...
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I don't know. I think the instructions are still OK (I've renewed them this year). At both of them you can pay by credit card.
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brooking library ? - google does not find one - find this as closest match - is this the one you mean ?

http://www.brookingslibrary.org/ services don't match your description though ?
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Probably Brooklyn Public library. They have very detailed instructions on how to join for non-residents and respond quickly to emails.
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Old 01-21-2014, 06:34 AM   #7
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cybmole, I'm following your thread with interest as I tried to work my way through this a few years back when I had a Sony and it was a real quagmire. Thanks for asking the question. this has been clunky in the UK, when I asked at Brighton pub lib about two years ago they looked at me as if I was bananas. eBooks yes, but on a computer via an app.
Be curious to know if you can get it to work. What device are you using?

I'm Kindling so it makes things even more complex.
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Old 01-21-2014, 07:41 AM   #9
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with the newer Sony's ( t2, T3 ) you can borrow books from UK library direct to your device - though trying to navigate the library web sites via the reader browser is so fiddly you are better off doing it on PC!
but you go (jsut once only) to the library app on the reader, type in your location & it finds your local library web site + the reader browser will store your library card number & PIN. I tested with T2, I don't have a T1. it found Gloucestershire, England no problem.

I reverted to using PC + sony reader software & side loading, for ease of navigation but another method is to use PC up the point where you have the book(s) at checkout ready to download, then switch to the reader browser for that last step. I think I tested that you can return a library book directly from the T2 / T3, also.

I am in Glos. UK, & having compared some other UK libraries I seem to have a better than average selection on offer, ( 3,383 ebook fiction entires in catalogue) but nowhere near as large as the USA ones.. I was checking other UK libraries where we have relatives, but Croydon, Birmingham, Lewisham e-book collections were much smaller. All the UK libraries need to see ID, in-person, so the only way to use another library would be if a friend or relative with a qualifying address were willing to get a card & then let you use it. They all use the overdrive interface & their e-book lending pages have identical menus etc.

if you look at the overdrive web site they now claim to have apps for android, i-pad.., kindle fire, nook . all sort of gadgets... so you can loan an audio book directly onto your smart phone or tablet.
http://omc.overdrive.com/v3-available-now/ios.php

there is no way to borow mobi / AZW kindle format books in the UK though, except for a VERY limited offer for amazon prime customers
Back to brooklyn.
I found the out of state application form but it is designed only for USA addresses, so I have emailed them for more help...
https://bpl.brooklynpubliclibrary.or...ref=outofstate

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Old 01-21-2014, 08:24 AM   #10
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if you look at the overdrive web site they now claim to have apps for android, i-pad.., kindle fire, nook . all sort of gadgets... so you can loan an audio book directly onto your smart phone or tablet.
http://omc.overdrive.com/v3-available-now/ios.php
They do have the apps and they work quite well, but with one major drawback. You can only borrow MP3 audiobooks using the app and most of the audiobooks are in WMA format. Borrowing WMA audiobooks requires a Windows PC and sideloading to a compatible audio player; which generally means a no-go for Android devices. iDevices are compatible, if the publisher allows it. If WMA is allowed, it takes much longer to download it to your computer because of the conversion process.

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"Greetings from Brooklyn Public Library, Thank you for your interest in obtaining a Brooklyn Public Library Card. We currently do not accept international requests but are looking to begin doing so in the near future"
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That's new. Orange should work, if there is enough books which interest you to justify the cost.
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"Greetings from Brooklyn Public Library, Thank you for your interest in obtaining a Brooklyn Public Library Card. We currently do not accept international requests but are looking to begin doing so in the near future"
That's unfortunate. Do you have any family or friends in the US to help you with this?
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The answer to your question is... in your question. I assume holds are not much use unless you can check them out once you've reserved them?

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