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An Unusual Viewpoint • May 2019
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The topic is An Unusual Viewpoint. fantasyfan writes of the topic- A different point of view could apply to a story written from a minority social/spiritual/gender perspective. Perhaps it might incorporate an iconoclastic approach such as a narrative which views the Mount Rushmore sculpture as an insult to Native American culture. I don’t know of a book which actually uses that specific topic but such works can often be both challenging and revelatory. Detailed nominating and voting guidelines can be found here. Basically, nominations are open for about four days and each person may nominate up to three literary selections which will go automatically to the vote. Voting by post then opens for four days, and a voter may give each nomination either one or two votes but only has a limited number of votes to use which is equal to the number of nominations minus one. Any questions, feel free to ask. We hope that you will read the selection with us and join in the discussion. * Nominations are complete. Initial voting is complete. Run-off voting is complete. Final results-
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I’m finding this topic enjoyably challenging. I’m thinking about nominations from points of view (natch), which is a different experience for me. I already have a few possibilities to consider.
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I am suggesting 3 novels which employ multiperspectivity. I am not sure if that meets the "Unusual Viewpoint" criteria, but I am not at all into books from the fringes having a strong woke, tribal, activist, etc. type alternative view as their predominant theme. So novels structured with multiple narrations is the only alternative I could think of .
The following 3 novels tell their stories from the points of view of multiple narrators or have multiple characters who have parallel experiences: The Sound and the Fury - William Faulkner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sound_and_the_Fury The Emigrants - W G Sebald https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Em..._(Sebald_novel) The Woman in White - Wilkie Collins https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Woman_in_White_(novel) The Woman in White is probably best described as being popular literature rather than serious, the literature tag (if earned) gained from its place in the history of the development of mystery novels. |
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AnotherCat, your interpretation is fine! I meant the theme to be very broad and not too difficult! I have been too busy this work week to check in and provide a clarification. For example it could be an unusual narration technique. It could be the same story told by multiple people. It could be an historical event told by a minor character you wouldn’t expect. It could be a book that makes you put yourself in someone else shoes. Here are some examples which I hope will spark some ideas and help.
I’m reading a book right now that has an ethical question posed by a main character but throughout the book chapters are inserted by people affected by the question with their viewpoint. I read a book about a relationship told in first person by a male and the female point of view was told through a diary. I just read a book split in two halves about 2 English girls in a plane crash in France during WW2. One is captured and becomes a Nazi POW. One is rescued by French Resistance. I read a book earlier this year narrated by an agoraphobe - definitely an unusual choice for a narrator and not an experience many of us relate to. Last edited by Bookworm_Girl; 05-03-2019 at 08:10 PM. |
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These are my nominations.
1. Pnin by Vladimir Nabokov Quote:
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My first nomination is My Name is Red by Orhan Pamuk. This book has been on my TBR for a long while. It won the International Dublin Literary Award in 2003. The author uses 12 different viewpoints to tell the story and solve the mystery.
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My second nomination is The Incarnations by Susan Barker. A travel through history following one's past lives.
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I toyed with proposing Nabokov's unusually written Pale Fire but then decided that I would not enjoy the poem element of it. Unfortunately, I was so fixated on it that I did not get around to considering other Nobokov works; so am pleased to see Pnin, which I haven't read, proposed.
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Great nominations so far. I'm finalising mine (it can be hard to whittle down after enough are found!).
I think one of the best things about our move towards interpretive topics is that months now are generally very open-ended and it's interesting to see each person's take with their nominations. You have an interesting, ahem, viewpoint on this month's! This was a selection for the general book club long ago in December of 2010. We did once have a guideline of no former selections from any of the book clubs here, but we did away with that in favour of only no selections from any of the book clubs here that anyone present was there for if that poster objected (and the onus would be on anyone affected to speak up before the vote began; once the vote begins all nominations in the vote are eligible). There are a few of us who've been around the clubs for a long time so most selections of the book clubs are still ineligible, but The Woman in White happens to have preceded those of us participating so far the last few months (and I notice it was the selection only two months before I myself joined!). Quickly glancing over those who participated in the original discussion of The Woman in White, I'm actually a bit shocked to find that astrangerhere was present for it! However, as she hasn't objected this month, it's still eligible. I did PM her just now about the situation just in case. If there aren't any objections before the vote begins, then it's eligible. That's a bit short notice for astrangerhere to have time to object, but in this instance looking at the whole I think it's more prudent to err on the side of keeping closer to the schedule. |
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My first nomination is Nutshell by Ian McEwan. It has a very unusual viewpoint- from inside the womb! It is something of a very unique interpretation of, or perhaps just heavily inspired by, Hamlet. Goodreads 199 pages, 2016, England
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Note that Historia Calamitatum is also known as The Story of My Misfortunes.
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The list should now be updated with the nominations so far. There's about two hours left before the vote begins if anyone has any other nominations.
I'm down to three books to choose from for my final two nominations and I'm having an awful time eliminating one. |
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Out of the three I'm still considering, only one hasn't ever been nominated before, so that's my deciding factor to nominate it this time. I'm not sure how well a fit it is for the club as it's quite violent and has been compared to Quentin Tarantino and Irvine Welsh, but I think that makes it an unusual viewpoint for our club. It's also been compared to A Clockwork Orange which has been nominated in our club before so it's not unprecedented, heh.
The book is Stonedogs by Craig Marriner. It's about a young violent group of delinquents in Rotorua, New Zealand (a touristy place known as 'Roto-Vegas'). I think this point of view of a group of young criminals in New Zealand is a viewpoint not heard so much about (at least internationally), so not usual, but the book is also structurally unusual in its points of view. Some parts of the text takes the form of a play complete with stage directions, there are shifts from the regular narrative to an inner narrative, and there are sudden shifts from the narrator's voice to an outside observer's perspective. Stonedogs has won awards such as the Ockham/Montana New Zealand Book Award Deutz Medal for Fiction or Poetry and the Hubert Church Best First Book Award. Goodreads 355 pages, 2002, New Zealand Quote:
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For my third nomination I wanted something that was a classic. I'm going to nominate The Hunchback of Notre Dame by Victor Hugo. This book is about other tragic characters, not just Quasimodo, and it's very much about the Cathedral. One of Hugo's objectives in writing this book was to highlight the value of the Gothic architecture which was often neglected, destroyed and replaced with modern architecture during that time period.
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For my final nomination, it was between an Egyptian/French book and a Japanese one. I couldn't decide any other way so I went with the one from a country we've least recently read from, which means the Egyptian/French book wins out since we've read a book from Japan more recently than either of the other two countries. So, I nominate Proud Beggars by Albert Cossery. It is a 'wry black comedy' set in the lowest societal strata of Cairo and begins with a senseless murder in a brothel and the subsequent search for the murderer. The odd thing is that police investigator, himself harbouring secrets, finds the suspects very likeable, full of warm good humour, and possessing a joie de vivre despite living amidst degrading poverty. I thought this viewpoint sounded like an interesting and unusual one to read about. Goodreads 199 pages, 1955, Egypt & France
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