Can't change dictionary on K2

BarryTX · 05-11-2009, 09:28 AM

I'm need some help with this one. I added a couple of translation dictionaries (converted from LIT format via Calibre) and a thesaurus (purchased from Amazon) to my K2. I wanted to change the primary dictionary for the lookup function to one of these to try it out, but when I followed the directions (from Home page, press Menu and choose Settings, then press the Menu button again) I don't have an option to change the primary dictionary at all. As in, not even there but greyed out, it is not on the menu choices at all.

I have updated my OS to 2.0.3, and I have both Savory and Screensaver Hack installed.

Any idea of what is wrong? Does the dictionary have to have a special format somehow for the K2 to recognize there is an alternative available? Any incompatibility with the hacks? Something change in OS 2.0.3? Or am I missing something else altogether? Any help will be appreciated.

sirbruce · 05-11-2009, 10:19 AM

I believe the dictionary has to be in a special format you can only get from Amazon.

wallcraft · 05-11-2009, 10:29 AM

Dictionaries do need to be in a special format. See How to create your own mobipocket dictionary for any language:. Even closer to your needs is Converting Encarta Dictionaries to Mobipocket Tutorial, since this starts with a conventional ebook dictionary and makes it into a searchable dictionary.

The following pre-built dictionaries should work: Dictionary, Webster's: Webster's Dictionary 1913, v1, 22 Nov 07, GNU Collaborative International Dictionary of English, and Wordnet Dictionary for Mobipocket.

Multi-language dictionaries seem to be particularly difficult, see Foreign Dictionaries for Kindle 2.

BarryTX · 05-13-2009, 02:44 PM

Many thanks for the help. However, when I try to follow the process with my dictionary, the Mobipocket build fails. I have tried it with Mobigen and with Mobipocket Creator Pro. With the latter, I get a bunch (260) errors that all say the same thing:

Error(prcgen): Two <idx:entry> tags cannot have the same id.

I can't figure out why this is happening - any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

susan_cassidy · 05-13-2009, 04:22 PM

Did you check the <idx:entry> tags in the intermediate HTML? Probably they are based on some entry in the original file that has some kind of tag that must differ.

BarryTX · 05-13-2009, 09:44 PM

I searched the 3 html files that were created after exploding the LIT file for <idx:entry> and it wasn't obvious that there was any problem with the tags. Having said that, I wouldn't claim to have any real knowledge of tags, so I am probably missing something.

susan_cassidy · 05-14-2009, 12:15 AM

I would think that a .lit file would be unlikely to contain the right information for a Mobipocket format dictionary.

BarryTX · 05-15-2009, 11:03 AM

I've done a bit more study. The Mobipocket reference pages state that the TEI tags used in Microsoft Reader dictionary publications are supported, but my 260 errors disappeared when I converted the TEI tags to <idx:entry name=...> and <idx

rth>. However, it still Mobipocket Creator still doesn't Build, spitting out new errors.

In the htm file there are still a bunch of TEI tags, including

<tei-ms:text>, <tei-ms:body>, <tei-ms:form>, and <tei-ms:sense>

I'm guessing I need to convert or eliminate these, but I can't find any master list of TEI tags to compare to the Mobipocket tag format. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

By the way, if anyone else has already converted these specific LIT dictionaries, I'd really like to hear about your experience.

BarryTX · 05-15-2009, 11:05 AM

that wasn't supposed to be an "embarassment" smiley in the post above, it should have been <idx: orth> without the space after the colon.

05-11-2009, 09:28 AM	#1
BarryTX Connoisseur Posts: 88 Karma: 39328 Join Date: Apr 2009 Device: Kindle 2	Can't change dictionary on K2 I'm need some help with this one. I added a couple of translation dictionaries (converted from LIT format via Calibre) and a thesaurus (purchased from Amazon) to my K2. I wanted to change the primary dictionary for the lookup function to one of these to try it out, but when I followed the directions (from Home page, press Menu and choose Settings, then press the Menu button again) I don't have an option to change the primary dictionary at all. As in, not even there but greyed out, it is not on the menu choices at all. I have updated my OS to 2.0.3, and I have both Savory and Screensaver Hack installed. Any idea of what is wrong? Does the dictionary have to have a special format somehow for the K2 to recognize there is an alternative available? Any incompatibility with the hacks? Something change in OS 2.0.3? Or am I missing something else altogether? Any help will be appreciated.

05-11-2009, 10:29 AM	#3
wallcraft reader Posts: 6,975 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3, Kobo Glo HD	Dictionaries do need to be in a special format. See How to create your own mobipocket dictionary for any language:. Even closer to your needs is Converting Encarta Dictionaries to Mobipocket Tutorial, since this starts with a conventional ebook dictionary and makes it into a searchable dictionary. The following pre-built dictionaries should work: Dictionary, Webster's: Webster's Dictionary 1913, v1, 22 Nov 07, GNU Collaborative International Dictionary of English, and Wordnet Dictionary for Mobipocket. Multi-language dictionaries seem to be particularly difficult, see Foreign Dictionaries for Kindle 2. Last edited by wallcraft; 05-11-2009 at 10:32 AM.

05-15-2009, 11:03 AM	#8
BarryTX Connoisseur Posts: 88 Karma: 39328 Join Date: Apr 2009 Device: Kindle 2	I've done a bit more study. The Mobipocket reference pages state that the TEI tags used in Microsoft Reader dictionary publications are supported, but my 260 errors disappeared when I converted the TEI tags to <idx:entry name=...> and <idxrth>. However, it still Mobipocket Creator still doesn't Build, spitting out new errors. In the htm file there are still a bunch of TEI tags, including <tei-ms:text>, <tei-ms:body>, <tei-ms:form>, and <tei-ms:sense> I'm guessing I need to convert or eliminate these, but I can't find any master list of TEI tags to compare to the Mobipocket tag format. Can anyone point me in the right direction? By the way, if anyone else has already converted these specific LIT dictionaries, I'd really like to hear about your experience.

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05-11-2009, 10:19 AM	#2
sirbruce Provocateur Posts: 1,859 Karma: 505847 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Columbus, OH Device: Kindle Touch, Kindle 2, Kindle DX, iPhone 3GS	I believe the dictionary has to be in a special format you can only get from Amazon.

05-13-2009, 02:44 PM	#4
BarryTX Connoisseur Posts: 88 Karma: 39328 Join Date: Apr 2009 Device: Kindle 2	Many thanks for the help. However, when I try to follow the process with my dictionary, the Mobipocket build fails. I have tried it with Mobigen and with Mobipocket Creator Pro. With the latter, I get a bunch (260) errors that all say the same thing: Error(prcgen): Two <idx:entry> tags cannot have the same id. I can't figure out why this is happening - any ideas? Thanks in advance.

05-13-2009, 04:22 PM	#5
susan_cassidy Wizard Posts: 2,251 Karma: 3720310 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Device: Kindle, iPad (not used much for reading)	Did you check the <idx:entry> tags in the intermediate HTML? Probably they are based on some entry in the original file that has some kind of tag that must differ.

05-13-2009, 09:44 PM	#6
BarryTX Connoisseur Posts: 88 Karma: 39328 Join Date: Apr 2009 Device: Kindle 2	I searched the 3 html files that were created after exploding the LIT file for <idx:entry> and it wasn't obvious that there was any problem with the tags. Having said that, I wouldn't claim to have any real knowledge of tags, so I am probably missing something.

05-14-2009, 12:15 AM	#7
susan_cassidy Wizard Posts: 2,251 Karma: 3720310 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Device: Kindle, iPad (not used much for reading)	I would think that a .lit file would be unlikely to contain the right information for a Mobipocket format dictionary.

05-15-2009, 11:05 AM	#9
BarryTX Connoisseur Posts: 88 Karma: 39328 Join Date: Apr 2009 Device: Kindle 2	that wasn't supposed to be an "embarassment" smiley in the post above, it should have been <idx: orth> without the space after the colon.

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