PRS-505 SD Card and non-english files/folders

DrunkenDonkey · 05-07-2010, 03:07 AM

Hey there,

I bought nice 4gb kingston sd card yesterday with the intention to put there everything, to use PRS+ and the directory structure and be happy with. Nope. I tried creating structure of Author/Collection/Books and loaded 30ish authors for a test. Only 2 of them showed on the reader and browse folders on PRS+, the reset were... missing. Tried loading more, renaming, deleting, moving folders and I can't really get any logic in what's happening, some, very rare authors are being shown and the rest ignored. If I move the whole structure to internal memory it works, if I "flatten" the structure, it works too. I saw someone mention in some post that sony have problems with non-english characters (english only file structure works), but could not find the discussion of these issues and if there is any workaround

Mike_73 · 05-07-2010, 03:32 AM

Did you try your folder structure without the non-english characters. Would it work then? If you want more information on PRS+ and how it works, check out the approbriate thread here: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64510

Geppetto · 05-07-2010, 03:37 AM

Get Calibre, upload your files on it and tag them. Connect Sony and upload them on it. Calibre will show you both drives: just select SD one to you upload files. You will have what Sony calls "collections" on your SD drive.

p.s.: I don't have any idea of what an English character is. Did you mean an alphabet? Maybe the Latin alphabet?

DrunkenDonkey · 05-07-2010, 03:56 AM

It is not PRS+ issue, the reader itself does not "enumerate" the books too, like most folders/files does not exist at all. I tried creating structure containing only english characters (characters from the latin alphabet, the originals are on cyrillic) and it works fine.

Calibre is nice too, but the generic issue is that the the reader itself can't sort anything with cyrillic, if you open books by author or books by name, the only thing you see is "Other" with 1000 books in, you can read the book faster than finding it this way.
On the other side, if I manage to make that sony actually show contents of the files and ultimately create structure like:
A
Authors starting with A\collections\books
B
Authors starting with B\collections\books

.. etc, of course with cyrillic leters, A,B are only example
And use PRS+ to browse that, I'll get rid completely of the 505's interface for finding books, will have the sorting working (PRS+ sorts cyrillic letters great too) and actually stop fighting with that reader and begin using it

Mark Nord · 05-07-2010, 05:11 AM

Hi!

Check the PRS+ thread for ".NOSCAN" and the "don't-scan-SD-Card-Option",
as well as the experimental "mount SD-Card" feature.
It's reported that 1000thends of books can be browsed this way.

On the other hand you can't open a book from the SD-Card any more, you have to copy it to internal memory first. But functionality is in PRS+ already.
HTH
Mark

DrunkenDonkey · 05-07-2010, 07:08 AM

\o/
Thanks all (and especially Mark). After 10 or so tries I sorta found out what 505 likes/dislikes about the cyrillic, so following structure works:
-Author first letter: latin
---Author name: cyrillic
------Sequence name: cyrillic
-----------Book title: latin

Every other case have failed. So now I have 2 working ways - either rename the whole stuff using the way above, or use Mark's suggestion (which works great), with the added drawback of having to copy the book and added benefit of less waiting for the reader to analyze the whole SD card.

I'll probably stick with the noscan/mount option and just get used to

allon_pan · 05-08-2010, 08:42 AM

It's a known issue that folder or file might be "missing" if not purely in English. Workaround is below (say you want to keep Chinese in your folder or filename):

folder name: 01.小说.Ebook
folder name: 02.诗歌.Ebook

filename:y.倚天屠龙记.epub
filename:t.唐诗三百首.pdf

The rule is: English.non-English.English

I use above method to manage my hundreds of Chinese books, it works perfectly. BTW, sub-folder is good as well as long as it follows the rule. I have PRS+ installed on my 505 for sure

kartu · 05-08-2010, 11:27 AM

SD/MS(?) card access in PRS 505 is buggy, but it should always work with "*via mount" (albeit quite a bit slower (might improve in the future, currently mount/umount is done every time) and with disabled scanning)

PS
By the way, besides .noscan (which is honored even if scanning is disabled via settings menu) there is also "disable scan" option in PRS+ menu.

allon_pan

Quote:

The rule is: English.non-English.English

Wow. Does it also work with underscore "_" as "english" letter?

allon_pan · 05-08-2010, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kartu

SD/MS(?) card access in PRS 505 is buggy, but it should always work with "*via mount" (albeit quite a bit slower (might improve in the future, currently mount/umount is done every time) and with disabled scanning)

PS
By the way, besides .noscan (which is honored even if scanning is disabled via settings menu) there is also "disable scan" option in PRS+ menu.

allon_pan

Wow. Does it also work with underscore "_" as "english" letter?

Sorry, never tried underscore. I personally believe it would work. Below would all work:

1.Chinese.epub
123.Chinese.epub
abc.Chinese.epub

05-07-2010, 03:07 AM	#1
DrunkenDonkey Connoisseur Posts: 88 Karma: 7087 Join Date: May 2009 Device: Kindle PW2	SD Card and non-english files/folders Hey there, I bought nice 4gb kingston sd card yesterday with the intention to put there everything, to use PRS+ and the directory structure and be happy with. Nope. I tried creating structure of Author/Collection/Books and loaded 30ish authors for a test. Only 2 of them showed on the reader and browse folders on PRS+, the reset were... missing. Tried loading more, renaming, deleting, moving folders and I can't really get any logic in what's happening, some, very rare authors are being shown and the rest ignored. If I move the whole structure to internal memory it works, if I "flatten" the structure, it works too. I saw someone mention in some post that sony have problems with non-english characters (english only file structure works), but could not find the discussion of these issues and if there is any workaround

05-08-2010, 08:42 AM	#7
allon_pan Member Posts: 14 Karma: 468 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Shenzhen, China Device: Sony PRS 505	It's a known issue that folder or file might be "missing" if not purely in English. Workaround is below (say you want to keep Chinese in your folder or filename): folder name: 01.小说.Ebook folder name: 02.诗歌.Ebook filename:y.倚天屠龙记.epub filename:t.唐诗三百首.pdf The rule is: English.non-English.English I use above method to manage my hundreds of Chinese books, it works perfectly. BTW, sub-folder is good as well as long as it follows the rule. I have PRS+ installed on my 505 for sure Last edited by allon_pan; 05-08-2010 at 08:47 AM.

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05-07-2010, 03:32 AM	#2
Mike_73 Guru Posts: 750 Karma: 1323 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: PRS-505, PRS-600, iPad 16GB Wifi, Kindle Voyage, Nexus 6, Razr HD	Did you try your folder structure without the non-english characters. Would it work then? If you want more information on PRS+ and how it works, check out the approbriate thread here: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64510

05-07-2010, 03:37 AM	#3
Geppetto Addict Posts: 232 Karma: 748 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: Sony PRS600, Cybook, Hanvon N520, Sony PRS300, Onyx Boox, Kindle 3	Get Calibre, upload your files on it and tag them. Connect Sony and upload them on it. Calibre will show you both drives: just select SD one to you upload files. You will have what Sony calls "collections" on your SD drive. p.s.: I don't have any idea of what an English character is. Did you mean an alphabet? Maybe the Latin alphabet?

05-07-2010, 03:56 AM	#4
DrunkenDonkey Connoisseur Posts: 88 Karma: 7087 Join Date: May 2009 Device: Kindle PW2	It is not PRS+ issue, the reader itself does not "enumerate" the books too, like most folders/files does not exist at all. I tried creating structure containing only english characters (characters from the latin alphabet, the originals are on cyrillic) and it works fine. Calibre is nice too, but the generic issue is that the the reader itself can't sort anything with cyrillic, if you open books by author or books by name, the only thing you see is "Other" with 1000 books in, you can read the book faster than finding it this way. On the other side, if I manage to make that sony actually show contents of the files and ultimately create structure like: A Authors starting with A\collections\books B Authors starting with B\collections\books .. etc, of course with cyrillic leters, A,B are only example And use PRS+ to browse that, I'll get rid completely of the 505's interface for finding books, will have the sorting working (PRS+ sorts cyrillic letters great too) and actually stop fighting with that reader and begin using it

05-07-2010, 05:11 AM	#5
Mark Nord 2B \|\| !2B Posts: 851 Karma: 194010 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Austria Device: Sony PRS505/650/T1/tolino vision 5	Hi! Check the PRS+ thread for ".NOSCAN" and the "don't-scan-SD-Card-Option", as well as the experimental "mount SD-Card" feature. It's reported that 1000thends of books can be browsed this way. On the other hand you can't open a book from the SD-Card any more, you have to copy it to internal memory first. But functionality is in PRS+ already. HTH Mark

05-07-2010, 07:08 AM	#6
DrunkenDonkey Connoisseur Posts: 88 Karma: 7087 Join Date: May 2009 Device: Kindle PW2	\o/ Thanks all (and especially Mark). After 10 or so tries I sorta found out what 505 likes/dislikes about the cyrillic, so following structure works: -Author first letter: latin ---Author name: cyrillic ------Sequence name: cyrillic -----------Book title: latin Every other case have failed. So now I have 2 working ways - either rename the whole stuff using the way above, or use Mark's suggestion (which works great), with the added drawback of having to copy the book and added benefit of less waiting for the reader to analyze the whole SD card. I'll probably stick with the noscan/mount option and just get used to