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fonzie4msg · 04-09-2013, 03:45 PM

*Singing* hello again damdidam

fonzie4msg · 04-09-2013, 03:48 PM

the conncetion problem really need to be fixed...it went down periodicly...

twobob · 04-09-2013, 03:51 PM

Ah yeah! a 3... Yeah man they are tough little suckers. Hard to brick.

I should know I beat the living pulp out of mine in it's lifetime and it's soldiered on regardless. Honestly think that with just a bit more setup you will have this rolling.

STEP 1) Ditch dropbear. Get yourself some ssh keys and once you have logged in with them successfully once.. Switch that FALSE to TRUE that we looked at in /usbnet/etc/config...

make the key, keep the private in ~/.ssh/
(this is the default from running ssh-keygen and just pressing enter about 8 times lol)

get the public key and shove it in /usbnet/etc/authorized_keys (make the file, fill if with the PUBLIC key string)

try authenticating (should "just work")

Ditch the dropbear. That will be a step forward at the very least

There has to be AT LEAST 5 or 6 guides on here about this more fulsome in detail than my potted guide here.

But I covered the essentials.

fonzie4msg · 04-09-2013, 04:02 PM

hehehe

iam going to stop for today ... but iam going to do this!

Iam quite happy to see my dektop screen on the kindle... its possible.. yeah!

I questioned myself whether the battery of my kindle will scuff by loading it through USB. Or is usbnetwork preventing that?

And how do I terminate kvncviewer?

twobob · 04-09-2013, 04:18 PM

how did you start it?

myts? make a script to close it in myts then...

#!/bin/sh
killall -9 kvncviewer (or whatever the exact name is)

or just press HOME IIRC

I should really blow the dust of the 3 and try it but I think that worked.

fonzie4msg · 04-09-2013, 04:24 PM

hehe. thx so far!!! Iam in best mood since a long time. Having a good shot on the possibility to write my phd stuff ... awesome!

twobob · 04-09-2013, 05:04 PM

Happy days mate. Look after those eyes. I suspect that this will all be an "amusing memory" soon enough. Took me days to do my first device. Minutes to do my latest one.

Such is the way with experience.

fonzie4msg · 04-11-2013, 05:40 PM

Maybe
/etc/init.d/netwatchd stop
is going to help with my conncetion problems.. we'll see next week..
happy weekend

atordo · 04-12-2013, 01:18 AM

Sorry if I didn't understand correctly, but if you want mainly to edit latex, wouldn't a terminal and text editor be a much simplier solution? Problem is you can't process latex in the Kindle, but you can transfer the tex file to your computer, run pdflatex and copy the pdf back (via ssh). This also uses much less bandwidth than a vnc link, so you should get rid of network interruptions too.

hawhill · 04-12-2013, 04:01 AM

No, the network interruptions seem to be a "feature" of the Kindle, unfortunately. I had the same problems with my K3 - I think the netwatchd is the culprit, yes. But I found it leaves SSH connections untouched, so I resorted to tunnel the VNC port through SSH. I configured SSH to create a remote-listening port and configured the VNC viewer accordingly (e.g. tunnel "-R5901:localhost:5901", then configure vncviewer to connect to localhost:1) (5901 is the port for VNC display #1).

atordo · 04-12-2013, 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawhill

No, the network interruptions seem to be a "feature" of the Kindle, unfortunately. I had the same problems with my K3 - I think the netwatchd is the culprit, yes.

O, I didn't known (I own a Touch). But I think the first part of my previous post is still relevant: simpler and you can edit when not in reach of the local network.
Of course there are not universal solutions and the original poster might prefer the remote desktop approach, in which case the ssh tunneling might be a valuable insight.

knc1 · 04-12-2013, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atordo

Sorry if I didn't understand correctly, but if you want mainly to edit latex, wouldn't a terminal and text editor be a much simplier solution? Problem is you can't process latex in the Kindle, but you can transfer the tex file to your computer, run pdflatex and copy the pdf back (via ssh). This also uses much less bandwidth than a vnc link, so you should get rid of network interruptions too.

Whoa now - you gotta watch out for such absolute statements.

Check the thread on the new MedReader that is in the works - it **DISPLAYS** Latex - no post processing into another document type required. There are screenshots of the Kindle displaying Latex pages in that thread.

I.E: In the use case you have stated, a zero-bandwidth solution.

Note: Since MedReader is being tested in the new port of the Midori web browser, you will find some of its screen shots in that thread.

Also in the works (a big MAYBE) is a DICOM format image display. Just for those who want to display medical imaging files in the Kindle, not just read about them in various medical libraries.

DICOM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DICOM#DICOM_data_format

twobob · 04-12-2013, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atordo

Sorry if I didn't understand correctly, but if you want mainly to edit latex, wouldn't a terminal and text editor be a much simplier solution? Problem is you can't process latex in the Kindle, but you can transfer the tex file to your computer, run pdflatex and copy the pdf back (via ssh). This also uses much less bandwidth than a vnc link, so you should get rid of network interruptions too.

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...04&postcount=6

seek and ye shall find...

atordo · 04-12-2013, 10:39 AM

Thanks for the info, I'll check it out. Great news for those of us who use latex.

fonzie4msg · 04-14-2013, 04:25 PM

hi guys

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawhill

No, the network interruptions seem to be a "feature" of the Kindle, unfortunately. I had the same problems with my K3 - I think the netwatchd is the culprit, yes. But I found it leaves SSH connections untouched, so I resorted to tunnel the VNC port through SSH. I configured SSH to create a remote-listening port and configured the VNC viewer accordingly (e.g. tunnel "-R5901:localhost:5901", then configure vncviewer to connect to localhost:1) (5901 is the port for VNC display #1).

omg.. sounds hard to do.. no idea

... but i have to try
or is it just the tunnel command in the shell of the PC and some editing in a vncviewer cfg?
hawhill, a qtesions pops up. I thought using ssh, the kindle is the host. but using vnc, the PC is the host... isnt it? And why iam not able to kill netstatd on kindle? thx for any help

twobot, have you done this too?

thanks atordo for your idea

good one. But I read that connecting a Keyboard to the kindle3/3g is the problem, isnt it?

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04-09-2013, 03:45 PM	#16
fonzie4msg Connoisseur Posts: 56 Karma: 171512 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Jena Device: k3gb (3g)	Singing hello again damdidam

04-09-2013, 03:48 PM	#17
fonzie4msg Connoisseur Posts: 56 Karma: 171512 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Jena Device: k3gb (3g)	the conncetion problem really need to be fixed...it went down periodicly...

04-09-2013, 03:51 PM	#18
twobob ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°){ʇlnɐɟ ƃǝs}Týr Posts: 6,586 Karma: 6299991 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: uti gratia usura (Yao ying da ying; Mo ying da yieng) Device: PW-WIFI\|K5-3G+WIFI\| K4\|K3-3G\|DXG\|K2\| Rooted Nook Touch	Ah yeah! a 3... Yeah man they are tough little suckers. Hard to brick. I should know I beat the living pulp out of mine in it's lifetime and it's soldiered on regardless. Honestly think that with just a bit more setup you will have this rolling. STEP 1) Ditch dropbear. Get yourself some ssh keys and once you have logged in with them successfully once.. Switch that FALSE to TRUE that we looked at in /usbnet/etc/config... make the key, keep the private in ~/.ssh/ (this is the default from running ssh-keygen and just pressing enter about 8 times lol) get the public key and shove it in /usbnet/etc/authorized_keys (make the file, fill if with the PUBLIC key string) try authenticating (should "just work") Ditch the dropbear. That will be a step forward at the very least There has to be AT LEAST 5 or 6 guides on here about this more fulsome in detail than my potted guide here. But I covered the essentials.

04-09-2013, 04:02 PM	#19
fonzie4msg Connoisseur Posts: 56 Karma: 171512 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Jena Device: k3gb (3g)	hehehe iam going to stop for today ... but iam going to do this! Iam quite happy to see my dektop screen on the kindle... its possible.. yeah! I questioned myself whether the battery of my kindle will scuff by loading it through USB. Or is usbnetwork preventing that? And how do I terminate kvncviewer?

04-09-2013, 04:18 PM	#20
twobob ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°){ʇlnɐɟ ƃǝs}Týr Posts: 6,586 Karma: 6299991 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: uti gratia usura (Yao ying da ying; Mo ying da yieng) Device: PW-WIFI\|K5-3G+WIFI\| K4\|K3-3G\|DXG\|K2\| Rooted Nook Touch	how did you start it? myts? make a script to close it in myts then... #!/bin/sh killall -9 kvncviewer (or whatever the exact name is) or just press HOME IIRC I should really blow the dust of the 3 and try it but I think that worked.

04-09-2013, 04:24 PM	#21
fonzie4msg Connoisseur Posts: 56 Karma: 171512 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Jena Device: k3gb (3g)	hehe. thx so far!!! Iam in best mood since a long time. Having a good shot on the possibility to write my phd stuff ... awesome!

04-09-2013, 05:04 PM	#22
twobob ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°){ʇlnɐɟ ƃǝs}Týr Posts: 6,586 Karma: 6299991 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: uti gratia usura (Yao ying da ying; Mo ying da yieng) Device: PW-WIFI\|K5-3G+WIFI\| K4\|K3-3G\|DXG\|K2\| Rooted Nook Touch	Happy days mate. Look after those eyes. I suspect that this will all be an "amusing memory" soon enough. Took me days to do my first device. Minutes to do my latest one. Such is the way with experience.

04-11-2013, 05:40 PM	#23
fonzie4msg Connoisseur Posts: 56 Karma: 171512 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Jena Device: k3gb (3g)	Maybe /etc/init.d/netwatchd stop is going to help with my conncetion problems.. we'll see next week.. happy weekend

04-12-2013, 01:18 AM	#24
atordo Connoisseur Posts: 89 Karma: 19669 Join Date: Apr 2012 Device: Kindle Touch	Sorry if I didn't understand correctly, but if you want mainly to edit latex, wouldn't a terminal and text editor be a much simplier solution? Problem is you can't process latex in the Kindle, but you can transfer the tex file to your computer, run pdflatex and copy the pdf back (via ssh). This also uses much less bandwidth than a vnc link, so you should get rid of network interruptions too.

04-12-2013, 04:01 AM	#25
hawhill Wizard Posts: 1,379 Karma: 2155307 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Goettingen, Germany Device: Kindle Paperwhite, Kobo Mini	No, the network interruptions seem to be a "feature" of the Kindle, unfortunately. I had the same problems with my K3 - I think the netwatchd is the culprit, yes. But I found it leaves SSH connections untouched, so I resorted to tunnel the VNC port through SSH. I configured SSH to create a remote-listening port and configured the VNC viewer accordingly (e.g. tunnel "-R5901:localhost:5901", then configure vncviewer to connect to localhost:1) (5901 is the port for VNC display #1).

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04-12-2013, 10:39 AM	#29
atordo Connoisseur Posts: 89 Karma: 19669 Join Date: Apr 2012 Device: Kindle Touch	Thanks for the info, I'll check it out. Great news for those of us who use latex.