New poll: What do you think of DRM

davidhburton · 04-19-2010, 07:50 AM

The results of my book buying poll are posted at my site. I have a new poll up on what people think of DRM.

Please drop by and vote at http://davidhburton.com

Cheers!
David

vaughnmr · 04-19-2010, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by davidhburton

The results of my book buying poll are posted at my site. I have a new poll up on what people think of DRM.

Please drop by and vote at http://davidhburton.com

Cheers!
David

It would be nice if you would let people vote on the poll...

davidhburton · 04-19-2010, 08:29 AM

You can't vote??

davidhburton · 04-19-2010, 08:32 AM

Ugh, #pollfail!! Fixed now!

dmaul1114 · 04-19-2010, 10:35 AM

I prefer without DRM.

That said I don't really care that much as I so seldom re-read books, don't care about loaning (just share a Kindle account with my girlfriend) so most everything (other than public domain books) I just get from the Amazon store since I have a Kindle.

queentess · 04-19-2010, 10:49 AM

Well, I don't know that anyone truly PREFERS DRM -- at it's best, the consumer shouldn't be able to tell that it's there while they're reading.

I definitely prefer without DRM, but I don't always let the presence of DRM stop me from making a purchase.

GeoffC · 04-19-2010, 10:51 AM

i don't mind (at the moment) - it can be circumwhatsited, i understand, whilst geo-restrictions are barriers.

tompe · 04-19-2010, 10:57 AM

Could not vote since the alternative "do not buy books with drm" was missing.

mr ploppy · 04-19-2010, 10:59 AM

I don't really see the point of it, either from a writer/publisher perspecive or from a reader perspective. All it does is make pirated books more convenient and easy to use, and punishes people who decide to support the publishers financially.

Just out of interest, does anyone know how much of an ebook's RRP goes to pay for DRM? Is it something that is licensed so they pay every time they use it, or do they just have to buy a program once and that's it?

cfrizz · 04-19-2010, 11:01 AM

I don't care one way or the other. If I want a book I will get it, so long as it is in the price range I am willing to pay.

davidhburton · 04-19-2010, 11:26 AM

@tompe, funny!! I thought about changing the wording of "DRM is the spawn of the devil" but that might have seemed to biased.

DMcCunney · 04-19-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by davidhburton

You can't vote??

I believe it just let me vote. (No error message, but no success message, either.)

Folks accessing the site using things like Firefox with the NoScript extension need to allow the site in NoScript. Such things require JavaScript to work, and NoScript turns off scripting by default.
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Dennis

DMcCunney · 04-19-2010, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mr ploppy

I don't really see the point of it, either from a writer/publisher perspecive or from a reader perspective. All it does is make pirated books more convenient and easy to use, and punishes people who decide to support the publishers financially.

The point from a publisher perspective is protecting content from unauthorized distribution. That it is of dubious value is not something many publishers have realized. I don't believe the reader's perspective is considered, unless the DRM applied makes the buyer jump through enough hoops to be able to purchase and read the book that they complian to the publisher.

(I spoke to a woman at a New York City ebook event a while back who was an ebook romance publisher. She agreed that DRM was ultimately doomed to failure, but used it because her authors demanded it. They were afraid they would lose sales if buyers could freely copy and share it once purchased, which I thought was an interesting view of their readers.)

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Just out of interest, does anyone know how much of an ebook's RRP goes to pay for DRM? Is it something that is licensed so they pay every time they use it, or do they just have to buy a program once and that's it?

DRM technology is present in the software that is used to create the ebook. They buy the program once. And they may not even buy the program: the MobiPocket Creator software used to produce Mobi editions includes DRM facilities you can choose to apply when you make the boom, but Mobi Creator is free.

So no, use of DRM does not add to the cost of producing the book.
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Dennis

Worldwalker · 04-19-2010, 12:23 PM

There really should be an "I will not buy a book with DRM" option in the poll.

There's a very significant difference between a preference and an absolute. For example, if a bunch of us were ordering pizza together, that difference would be critical: I prefer my pizza without Italian sausage, but if that's what the group orders, I'll eat it; on the other hand, I will not eat a pizza with anchovies, no how, no way, they're just revolting.

davidhburton · 04-19-2010, 12:26 PM

I have added that option.

04-19-2010, 07:50 AM	#1
davidhburton Addict Posts: 211 Karma: 100001 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Toronto Device: none	New poll: What do you think of DRM The results of my book buying poll are posted at my site. I have a new poll up on what people think of DRM. Please drop by and vote at http://davidhburton.com Cheers! David

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04-19-2010, 08:29 AM	#3
davidhburton Addict Posts: 211 Karma: 100001 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Toronto Device: none	You can't vote??

04-19-2010, 08:32 AM	#4
davidhburton Addict Posts: 211 Karma: 100001 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Toronto Device: none	Ugh, #pollfail!! Fixed now!

04-19-2010, 10:35 AM	#5
dmaul1114 Wizard Posts: 2,300 Karma: 1121709 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Amazon Kindle 1	I prefer without DRM. That said I don't really care that much as I so seldom re-read books, don't care about loaning (just share a Kindle account with my girlfriend) so most everything (other than public domain books) I just get from the Amazon store since I have a Kindle.

04-19-2010, 10:49 AM	#6
queentess Reading is sexy Posts: 1,303 Karma: 544517 Join Date: Apr 2009 Device: none	Well, I don't know that anyone truly PREFERS DRM -- at it's best, the consumer shouldn't be able to tell that it's there while they're reading. I definitely prefer without DRM, but I don't always let the presence of DRM stop me from making a purchase.

04-19-2010, 10:51 AM	#7
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,600 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	i don't mind (at the moment) - it can be circumwhatsited, i understand, whilst geo-restrictions are barriers.

04-19-2010, 10:57 AM	#8
tompe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,452 Karma: 7185064 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Linköpng, Sweden Device: Kindle Voyage, Nexus 5, Kindle PW	Could not vote since the alternative "do not buy books with drm" was missing.

04-19-2010, 10:59 AM	#9
mr ploppy Feral Underclass Posts: 3,622 Karma: 26821535 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Yorkshire, tha noz Device: 2nd hand paperback	I don't really see the point of it, either from a writer/publisher perspecive or from a reader perspective. All it does is make pirated books more convenient and easy to use, and punishes people who decide to support the publishers financially. Just out of interest, does anyone know how much of an ebook's RRP goes to pay for DRM? Is it something that is licensed so they pay every time they use it, or do they just have to buy a program once and that's it?

04-19-2010, 11:01 AM	#10
cfrizz Wizard Posts: 1,531 Karma: 34583358 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Quincy, MA Device: Samsung 54A, Kobo Libra H2O, Samsung S6 Lite	I don't care one way or the other. If I want a book I will get it, so long as it is in the price range I am willing to pay.

04-19-2010, 11:26 AM	#11
davidhburton Addict Posts: 211 Karma: 100001 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Toronto Device: none	@tompe, funny!! I thought about changing the wording of "DRM is the spawn of the devil" but that might have seemed to biased.

04-19-2010, 12:23 PM	#14
Worldwalker Curmudgeon Posts: 3,085 Karma: 722357 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: PRS-505	There really should be an "I will not buy a book with DRM" option in the poll. There's a very significant difference between a preference and an absolute. For example, if a bunch of us were ordering pizza together, that difference would be critical: I prefer my pizza without Italian sausage, but if that's what the group orders, I'll eat it; on the other hand, I will not eat a pizza with anchovies, no how, no way, they're just revolting.

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04-19-2010, 12:26 PM	#15
davidhburton Addict Posts: 211 Karma: 100001 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Toronto Device: none	I have added that option.