How to change the Sigil Images folder name to images - Page 2

JSWolf · 02-08-2018, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitch

Well, sure, that too.

I am curious, now. If the OP will elaborate, perhaps the geniuses here (

) can aid and abet.

Hitch

I didn't realize that MR has "very stable" geniuses.

Hitch · 02-08-2018, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

I didn't realize that MR has "very stable" geniuses.

I'm pretty sure, Jon, that I never said or implied that. If I did, I was sleepwalking, fersure. ;-)

HItch

JSWolf · 02-08-2018, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitch

I'm pretty sure, Jon, that I never said or implied that. If I did, I was sleepwalking, fersure. ;-)

HItch

No, you didn't. I just inferred.

Hitch · 02-08-2018, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

No, you didn't. I just inferred.

hmmm...I think your Inference Engine is having a malfunction. LOLOL...

Hitch

AlanHK · 02-09-2018, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinH

Slight correction: *Windows* does not distinguish case in filenames in its main filesystem. This has nothing to do with Sigil. There is no way for Sigil to enforce case-sensitivity on Windows!

I know that's the cause. But, as I discovered, it allows you to create ePubs that only work on Windows, so I think it's worth addressing.

Even if whatever Sigil uses to render previews can't be made case sensitive, can the "well formed check", which is the only one built in, be made to warn of a case mismatch as epubcheck does? And whatever checks that are done on saving or opening a file.

The error arose because I was replacing an image file and just typed in the new filename, spelling right but case wrong. After any edit I do an F7 to confirm no syntax errors, and go on. Epubcheck is too slow to do that often.

AlanHK · 02-09-2018, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Hitch

Don't confuse Calibre's conversion engine with Calibre's editor. I agree that nobody at my shop is allowed to use Calibre, for conversion--but I have two different areas that absolutely will use the editor--which creates no named classes, etc.

You can just use Calibre's editor stand-alone: "ebook-edit.exe" without having to go through its very possessive file manager.
It doesn't create any styles on its own.
It does some things more conveniently than Sigil and has some unique plugins.

Also Calibre's "ebook-viewer.exe", which is what I use for looking at epubs.
And for completeness, when I need to convert another format to ePub, I use Calibre's "ebook-convert.exe" command line.

JSWolf · 02-09-2018, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Hitch

hmmm...I think your Inference Engine is having a malfunction. LOLOL...

Hitch

Tell that to our "very stable" genius President.

JSWolf · 02-09-2018, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AlanHK

The error arose because I was replacing an image file and just typed in the new filename, spelling right but case wrong. After any edit I do an F7 to confirm no syntax errors, and go on. Epubcheck is too slow to do that often.

What I do is run epubcheck before the final save. That means I catch anything epubcheck mentions before exiting.

KevinH · 02-09-2018, 08:22 AM

Again this is not going to change. Verifying what you have entered is the role of validators like epubcheck not editors. You can also manually verify things by using the Reports feature.

Also if you use Sigil's Insert Image tool and select a file from your images folder, Sigil should properly match the case provided by the filsystem, preventing issues.

AlanHK · 02-11-2018, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinH

Again this is not going to change. Verifying what you have entered is the role of validators like epubcheck not editors. You can also manually verify things by using the Reports feature.

Interesting.
If I have a file A.jpg and an image link a.jpg, doing "Report" shows "A.jpg" used 0 times. And it is listed as an "unused media file".

However, F7 "Well-Formed check" just says "No problems found" in either case.
But it also does that if I make the link "B.jpg".

So F7 doesn't care if links are valid or not. It's seeming less and less meaningful.

KevinH · 02-11-2018, 10:49 AM

All F7 does, is make sure the file is parseable, not that it is correct (it is a sanity checker). If a file is not parseable then, until it is mended, nothing can really be done with it.

Again, as an editor Sigil will allow you to type anything you want. If Preview can not parse it or sanity check (F7) fails, you typed something with incorrect syntax for xml/xhtml and it needs to be mended. You can type in links or hrefs or src's whose targets do not exist. As long as the syntax is pareseable, all is fine from the editor's perspective given the author's next step may be to add that missing target. There is no way for an editor to know.

Again, if you use the Insert Image tool, it will correctly match the actual filename preventing the problem you yourself created.

If you are worried about link, targets, etc, you can run the Report features to visually check things or even better yet run an actual validator! Epubcheck will happily point out you messed up.

Sigil is an editor, not a validator. Sigil allows validator plugins to be run inside the Sigil application.

Before considering an epub complete, I **strongly** recommend you run it against a validator to verify you have not messed anything up.

DiapDealer · 02-11-2018, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AlanHK

However, F7 "Well-Formed check" just says "No problems found" in either case.
But it also does that if I make the link "B.jpg".

So F7 doesn't care if links are valid or not. It's seeming less and less meaningful.

The key is in the name: "Well-Formed Check." It checks whether the file is well-formed (all tags are properly closed and nested). Is the file parseable? Nothing more. That is all it's intended to do--that is all it's going to do. Validation is for plugins and external tools to perform.

st_albert · 02-11-2018, 09:15 PM

But how nice and convenient it is that there is a plugin for epubcheck and there is a plugin for Flight Crew (and not a plugin but a link to validate CSS with W3C -- I'd love a plugin but there are issues with what version you want to validate with).

When (I think) I'm ready to publish an epub, I use them all.

AFAIK just keeping an eye on the preview window will tell you (instantly) everything you could learn from F7. Please enlighten me if I'm wrong about this. I don't generally use F7.

Albert

KevinH · 02-11-2018, 09:25 PM

Yes, Preview, if enabled and on screen, will detect almost all not well-formed errors. But you have to load every page and check it visually. F7 is just another way of finding not well-formed xhtml.

DiapDealer · 02-12-2018, 05:00 AM

Yes. It's the "all files" aspect of the well-formed check that can save someone some trouble.

02-09-2018, 08:22 AM	#24
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 7,644 Karma: 5433388 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	Again this is not going to change. Verifying what you have entered is the role of validators like epubcheck not editors. You can also manually verify things by using the Reports feature. Also if you use Sigil's Insert Image tool and select a file from your images folder, Sigil should properly match the case provided by the filsystem, preventing issues. Last edited by KevinH; 02-09-2018 at 08:38 AM.

02-11-2018, 10:49 AM	#26
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 7,644 Karma: 5433388 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	All F7 does, is make sure the file is parseable, not that it is correct (it is a sanity checker). If a file is not parseable then, until it is mended, nothing can really be done with it. Again, as an editor Sigil will allow you to type anything you want. If Preview can not parse it or sanity check (F7) fails, you typed something with incorrect syntax for xml/xhtml and it needs to be mended. You can type in links or hrefs or src's whose targets do not exist. As long as the syntax is pareseable, all is fine from the editor's perspective given the author's next step may be to add that missing target. There is no way for an editor to know. Again, if you use the Insert Image tool, it will correctly match the actual filename preventing the problem you yourself created. If you are worried about link, targets, etc, you can run the Report features to visually check things or even better yet run an actual validator! Epubcheck will happily point out you messed up. Sigil is an editor, not a validator. Sigil allows validator plugins to be run inside the Sigil application. Before considering an epub complete, I strongly recommend you run it against a validator to verify you have not messed anything up. Last edited by KevinH; 02-11-2018 at 10:55 AM.

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02-11-2018, 09:15 PM	#28
st_albert Guru Posts: 696 Karma: 150000 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: none	But how nice and convenient it is that there is a plugin for epubcheck and there is a plugin for Flight Crew (and not a plugin but a link to validate CSS with W3C -- I'd love a plugin but there are issues with what version you want to validate with). When (I think) I'm ready to publish an epub, I use them all. AFAIK just keeping an eye on the preview window will tell you (instantly) everything you could learn from F7. Please enlighten me if I'm wrong about this. I don't generally use F7. Albert

02-11-2018, 09:25 PM	#29
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 7,644 Karma: 5433388 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	Yes, Preview, if enabled and on screen, will detect almost all not well-formed errors. But you have to load every page and check it visually. F7 is just another way of finding not well-formed xhtml.

02-12-2018, 05:00 AM	#30
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,549 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Yes. It's the "all files" aspect of the well-formed check that can save someone some trouble.