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Old 06-27-2017, 02:22 PM   #1
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Baen coming to OverDrive...

Was poking around on the Bar and noticed a short message from Toni Weisskopf (in response to a message about library eBooks) that I thought might be of interest to some here...
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We are negotiating with Overdrive, so I won't comment further. But: working on it!--Toni
https://bar.baen.com/index.php?t=msg...6&#msg_1425136
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Old 06-27-2017, 03:27 PM   #2
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Does the thread title perhaps not merit a question mark? It seems a little premature for a definitive statement!
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Old 06-27-2017, 04:55 PM   #3
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Does the thread title perhaps not merit a question mark? It seems a little premature for a definitive statement!
:shrugs: Change it if you want.

I figure she wouldn't have mentioned it unless she was pretty sure it would happen, but yes there is no deal yet.

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Old 06-27-2017, 05:50 PM   #4
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I'm not going to change it - it's your thread! Merely a comment in a personal capacity; not speaking as a moderator .
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Old 06-29-2017, 06:38 PM   #5
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Old 06-30-2017, 08:50 AM   #6
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Given Baen's long standing opposition to DRM, one has to wonder how that will sort out.
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Old 06-30-2017, 09:12 AM   #7
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Given Baen's long standing opposition to DRM, one has to wonder how that will sort out.
I think most people who are opposed to DRM on purchased books accept its necessity for borrowed books.
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Old 06-30-2017, 09:31 AM   #8
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Given Baen's long standing opposition to DRM, one has to wonder how that will sort out.
I doubt that it will be used by Baen, but OverDrive does support borrowing ePub books without DRM. From OverDrive Help:

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  • Open EPUB
    • Open EPUB eBooks aren't protected by Adobe's DRM system. This means you don't need to authorize your computer or device before reading them.
    • Open EPUBs can be downloaded to any reading app of your choice (like iBooks or Play Books) in addition to the OverDrive app or Adobe Digital Editions.
It works on the honor system and they cannot be returned early as with DRM-protected books.

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Old 06-30-2017, 10:36 AM   #9
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It works on the honor system and they cannot be returned early as with DRM-protected books.
They can be returned whenever a user wants to through the OverDrive app, just like MP3 audiobooks can. Of course this can be a bit clunky for someone downloading the ePub file to a PC and sideloading it to a device as they'd have to also at some point download it to the OD app just for the purpose of returning early so I suspect most users who are sideloading and not just using the app or the Kindle version just let the loan expire on its own.

FWIW my local library offers 3,607 books in open ePub while offering 117,550 with Adobe DRM.
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:shrugs: Change it if you want.

I figure she wouldn't have mentioned it unless she was pretty sure it would happen, but yes there is no deal yet.
And yet... here we are well over a year later and it still hasn't happened.
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Considering all the hoops needed to be jumped through by both sides, I wasn't expecting any results before 18-24 months.
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Considering all the hoops needed to be jumped through by both sides, I wasn't expecting any results before 18-24 months.
I saw an email correspondance in the later half of 2016 in which a Baen employee said they had been in talks with Overdrive for some time already. Obviously I don't know exactly how long some time is but it sounds like at least several months. So, at this point, it's been roughly 3 years and still no Baen on Overdrive. If both sides were truly committed to making an agreement, it would have happened by now. Sadly, all the children who can't afford retail prices to buy the Baen titles they'd love to read are being left out in the cold. Such a shame since there a many wonderful sci-fi Baen titles that could truly inspire young minds (especially in the STEM disciplines) if only they had ready access to them.
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I've seen Baen audio books on Overdrive but not the ebooks.
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From November 6th 2019

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Not only do we not have to follow suit, we’ve just concluded a deal with Overdrive, a primary provider of ebooks to libraries, so our entire catalog will be available easily to libraries.--Toni
Took a while but they did it and I've already been able to check out several from Fort Wayne/Allen County Public Library.
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