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Old 05-07-2016, 12:57 AM   #1
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Question bookerly font - space after speech mark for C, K

I came across an apparent bug - confirmed by googling and extra testing - which is that the bookerly font ( and only the bookerly font) will add a space between an opening speech mark and a capital C or K ( but only those two capitalised letters)

i.e."C renders as " C , when there is no extra space in the book source code.

what I did not find was any acknowledgement from Amazon either that this will be fixed, someday, or that they don't care & will not be fixing it.

I turned off that font choice, meanwhile, as it bugs me to keep seeing that artifact.

There is one quite old post on this board, which I did not add to, mindful of the necroposting advice; and a thread somewhere in reddit - does anyone have any up to date info in this please.

I see this on my Kindle Voyage, but it may be a font specific, rather than a device specific issue
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Old 05-07-2016, 04:28 AM   #2
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Change the font and see if this glitch still exists. If it does, then it is font specific. I have Bookerly installed on my H2O. I'll look and see if I see such there.
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Old 05-07-2016, 06:22 AM   #3
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i did change the font and the glitch did disappear, that is why I reported it as bookerly specific; and I checked other books and checked the book source code to eliminate it being book-specific.

but it would actually be some interaction between the font and the renderer ? , as it has to be that exact combination of a speech mark followed by a capital C or K

here is the reddit link, which has a helpful image showing the exact issue:
https://www.reddit.com/r/kindle/comm...acing_issues/?

and the older mobileread thread:
http://www.mobileread.mobi/forums/sh...=262979&page=3
that thread blames kindle firmware

i have not as yet checked for any firmware update for the kindle voyage, i keep it mostly in aeroplane mode - but I can go do that...

...sync finds nothing new - I have firmware 5.6.5.(27303000038) , which is at least one update on from when I bought the kindle last year

UPDATE - the plot thickens- that old thread is discussing converted + sideloaded books which is also what I was using. so I just skipped through a couple of recently-bought-from-amazon books and in those the "C construct is fine.

so there is some other factor involved ?
also, much of that old thread is about the complexities of emailing books via amazon, whereas I am using only USB to get azw books from calibre to voyage. I did try converting to mobi instead, with one test book and observed the same issue, in bookerly.

here is a code example from a sideloaded book where I do see the bug, in bookerly:
<p class="tx">“Can I see it?” Jaynie asks.</p>
where the CSS class declaration is
.tx {
display: block;
font-size: 1em;
font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal;

margin-bottom: 0;
margin-left: 0;
margin-right: 0;
margin-top: 0;
text-align: justify;
text-indent: 1.5em;

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Old 05-07-2016, 08:03 AM   #4
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UPDATE - so I made a little test book,by converting a word doc, but as I was disconnecting my voyage from calibre after copying that over , the voyage restarted and announced that it had updated itself,

and the newer firmware - 5.7.4. - seems to have fixed it.

wish I'd never mentioned the problem now :-(

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Old 05-07-2016, 11:55 AM   #5
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Pleased to hear that it's fixed.
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Pleased to hear that it's fixed.
so am I !

strange that the voyage did not tell me it had a firmware update ready to go; so I discover that only because disconnecting /ejecting from calibre causes a restart , which in turn causes an auto-update?
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I was under the impression that there was a bug like that, specific to any firmware, any font, but only for the legacy MOBI format.
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that must be some other bug ?

This was definitely bookerly only (a change of font on the kindle from within the book would remove it/ bring it back) and it was with converts from epub to azw3 made in calibre then USB loaded. ( not emailed to amazon ).

if you backtrack up to the reddit discussion link , that in turn links to an excellent side by side picture of the "bug" being present in bookerly and not present for the same page in some other font

I think, from reading the older mobileread thread, that having text-align: justified; in the paragraph css could have been the trigger. I could not find an example of the behaviour in a bought-from-amazon book + downloaded-directly-to Kindle book and I hypothesise that amazon's own original css does not typically include such declarations

but for me the issue has now disappeared with the latest firmware, in the books I am reading and in the little test epub I made
Code:
<body class="calibre">

  <p class="block_">Test book</p>

  <p class="block_">“Alpha”</p>

  <p class="block_">“Bravo”</p>

  <p class="block_">“Charlie”</p>

  <p class="block_">“Delta”</p>

  <p class="block_1">*</p>

</body>

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