Elipsa 2E question

TheSmitty · 02-09-2024, 03:59 PM

Can you can send PDF's to the device and not have to connect to computer?

Assuming can get PDF on device, I am sure you can mark it up. But can the marked up PDF be in a folder with other notes that you created from a template?

Kindle Scribe allows sending a PDF and marking it up. But it treats it like a doc and not something you can put into a folder with other notebooks....

DNSB · 02-09-2024, 04:51 PM

How are you planning on getting the PDFs to the Elipsa 2E without using a computer?

Quoth · 02-09-2024, 05:04 PM

You can in theory use WiFi. USB is better.

A Scribe doesn't actualy use a PDF for marking on. You send it to Amazon and download it as a special Amazon format. Then after marking it, it has to be send to Amazon.

Kobo Sage or Elipsa or Elipsa 2.
Get PDF on ereader by any method that works with epubs.
Write on it (marking). It's a real PDF and writing/marking on it makes a new layer.
Copy back PDF to PC (usually via USB) and you have a PDF with marking on it.
Dropbox can be used.

Epubs can use touch keyboard or BT keyboard to have a highlight and a real text note that can be separately exported in about 3 ways.

The Basic and Advanced Notebooks are like two separate systems. They can export PC files to Dropbox or PC via USB later. They are nothing to do with epubs or PDFs.

Writing with the Pen on an epub works but isn't useful.

A Scribe and Elipsa don't work in a similar way at all for notebooks or PDFs. The Elipsa doesn't need the Internet, but can use it. The Scribe is crippled without Amazon conversions.

Quoth · 02-09-2024, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DNSB

How are you planning on getting the PDFs to the Elipsa 2E without using a computer?

In theory you can maybe use browser or Dropbox via WiFi. But USB is the best way.

You can also use an Android Tablet that has a host USB2Go and Filemanager over USB.

Cootey · 02-11-2024, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSmitty

Can you can send PDF's to the device and not have to connect to computer?

Assuming can get PDF on device, I am sure you can mark it up. But can the marked up PDF be in a folder with other notes that you created from a template?

Kindle Scribe allows sending a PDF and marking it up. But it treats it like a doc and not something you can put into a folder with other notebooks....

I believe Quoth has covered a lot of your questions. I use Dropbox to send PDFs to my Elipsa, but you can achieve the same thing with Google Drive.

You can also setup Calibre’s web server. Any PDF I stick in the sync folder using my iOS device is instantly available through the Calibre web server accessed through the Elipsa’s browser. This technically uses a computer that is always on, but I only need WiFi to connect to it, even if away from home. You may find Dropbox support a lot easier to use, however.

I have created PDF templates that I access through Dropbox. Any edits I make on the PDF with my Elipsa are synced back to Dropbox.

I’m not sure about folders. I haven’t played with nested folders on Dropbox.

TheSmitty · 02-11-2024, 12:35 PM

So are pdfs able to be grouped into folders along with regular notes you take or are they treated separately?

DNSB · 02-11-2024, 02:50 PM

There is no concept of folders using the Elipsa's default GUI unless you plan on using KOReader or Plato.

Quoth · 02-11-2024, 04:00 PM

Except the notebooks can use subfolders created in the Notebooks application. But nothing else goes in them and notebooks in GUI created folders, unlike default notebooks not in a folder, can be wiped by a reset.

The Notebooks App is like a separate gadget. You can use the pull down gesture that shows last three thing to hop between the Books part (PDFs and epubs) and the Notebooks part, which uses MyWrite Nebo. Other than that there is now connection.

MyBooks and Search don't have the the notebooks and they are metadata based, not filesystem based, which is no use for ebooks or PDFs except specialist use PDFs that use a file structure rather than metadata. Almost none of my PDFs in that category are useable on the Sage or Elipsa anyway, I use them on a TCL NxtPaper 11 tablet (128G built in and about 120G of documents (mostly PDF scans of magazines from 1922 onwards, old service data and datasheets) on a 256G micro SD card. I use Xodo for that.

Quoth · 02-11-2024, 04:04 PM

I did have KOReader on the Elipsa till Kobo added per document PDF cropping. It's a pain to browse with for more than a hundred or so documents. With a file system organisation an ebook/PDF can't be in more than one collection. You also can run out of path length.

02-09-2024, 03:59 PM	#1
TheSmitty Addict Posts: 224 Karma: 1181422 Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: DFW, TX area Device: Paperwhite SE, Libra 2, Oasis 3, Boox Note Air 3C, iPad Pro 11	Elipsa 2E question Can you can send PDF's to the device and not have to connect to computer? Assuming can get PDF on device, I am sure you can mark it up. But can the marked up PDF be in a folder with other notes that you created from a template? Kindle Scribe allows sending a PDF and marking it up. But it treats it like a doc and not something you can put into a folder with other notebooks.... Last edited by TheSmitty; 02-09-2024 at 04:01 PM.

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02-09-2024, 04:51 PM	#2
DNSB Bibliophagist Posts: 35,464 Karma: 145525534 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vancouver Device: Kobo Sage, Forma, Clara HD, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos	How are you planning on getting the PDFs to the Elipsa 2E without using a computer?

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Quoth the rook, bossing Never. Posts: 11,164 Karma: 85874891 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper11	You can in theory use WiFi. USB is better. A Scribe doesn't actualy use a PDF for marking on. You send it to Amazon and download it as a special Amazon format. Then after marking it, it has to be send to Amazon. Kobo Sage or Elipsa or Elipsa 2. Get PDF on ereader by any method that works with epubs. Write on it (marking). It's a real PDF and writing/marking on it makes a new layer. Copy back PDF to PC (usually via USB) and you have a PDF with marking on it. Dropbox can be used. Epubs can use touch keyboard or BT keyboard to have a highlight and a real text note that can be separately exported in about 3 ways. The Basic and Advanced Notebooks are like two separate systems. They can export PC files to Dropbox or PC via USB later. They are nothing to do with epubs or PDFs. Writing with the Pen on an epub works but isn't useful. A Scribe and Elipsa don't work in a similar way at all for notebooks or PDFs. The Elipsa doesn't need the Internet, but can use it. The Scribe is crippled without Amazon conversions.

02-11-2024, 12:35 PM	#6
TheSmitty Addict Posts: 224 Karma: 1181422 Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: DFW, TX area Device: Paperwhite SE, Libra 2, Oasis 3, Boox Note Air 3C, iPad Pro 11	So are pdfs able to be grouped into folders along with regular notes you take or are they treated separately?

02-11-2024, 02:50 PM	#7
DNSB Bibliophagist Posts: 35,464 Karma: 145525534 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vancouver Device: Kobo Sage, Forma, Clara HD, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos	There is no concept of folders using the Elipsa's default GUI unless you plan on using KOReader or Plato.

02-11-2024, 04:00 PM	#8
Quoth the rook, bossing Never. Posts: 11,164 Karma: 85874891 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper11	Except the notebooks can use subfolders created in the Notebooks application. But nothing else goes in them and notebooks in GUI created folders, unlike default notebooks not in a folder, can be wiped by a reset. The Notebooks App is like a separate gadget. You can use the pull down gesture that shows last three thing to hop between the Books part (PDFs and epubs) and the Notebooks part, which uses MyWrite Nebo. Other than that there is now connection. MyBooks and Search don't have the the notebooks and they are metadata based, not filesystem based, which is no use for ebooks or PDFs except specialist use PDFs that use a file structure rather than metadata. Almost none of my PDFs in that category are useable on the Sage or Elipsa anyway, I use them on a TCL NxtPaper 11 tablet (128G built in and about 120G of documents (mostly PDF scans of magazines from 1922 onwards, old service data and datasheets) on a 256G micro SD card. I use Xodo for that.

02-11-2024, 04:04 PM	#9
Quoth the rook, bossing Never. Posts: 11,164 Karma: 85874891 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper11	I did have KOReader on the Elipsa till Kobo added per document PDF cropping. It's a pain to browse with for more than a hundred or so documents. With a file system organisation an ebook/PDF can't be in more than one collection. You also can run out of path length.