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Old 11-19-2007, 11:53 AM   #76
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Furthermore all YOUR own content (docs, pdfs, email messages) that you want to install on your Kindle will have to go through Amazon for conversion (for a small fee) and transmission via Whispernet.
Not Entirely:

"When Kindle is connected to your computer, you will see three directories or folders. The one called "documents" contains all of your digital reading materials like books, newspapers, your "My Clippings" file, etc. The "Audible" directory is for your audiobooks, and "music" is for your MP3 files. You can add Kindle compatible files to these directories, and you can copy, move, or delete the files that are already there. The computer file formats that you can read or listen to on your Kindle are listed below: • Kindle (.AZW) • Text (.TXT) • Unprotected Mobipocket (.MOBI, .PRC) • Audible (.AA) • MP3"

I agree that more formats need to be supported off the PC...

So far, I see a great device being crippled by greed. When are these guys going to read a little history and see that this approach is self defeating? Why is the PC dominant when Apple was better - because it was open!

They will never learn. For my part I will keep my Sony and watch to see if they open the device to more formats. Clearly this could be done in firmware should they decide to do it or it can be hacked.

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Old 11-19-2007, 11:55 AM   #77
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In the License agreement:

Amazon provides wireless connectivity free of charge to you for certain content shopping and acquisition services on your Device. You will be charged a fee for wireless connectivity for your use of other wireless services on your Device, such as Web browsing and downloading of personal files, should you elect to use those services. We will maintain a list of current fees for such services in the Kindle Store


You agree you will use the wireless connectivity provided by Amazon only in connection with Services Amazon provides for the Device. You may not use the wireless connectivity for any other purpose.

Use of Digital Content. Upon your payment of the applicable fees set by Amazon, Amazon grants you the non-exclusive right to keep a permanent copy of the applicable Digital Content and to view, use, and display such Digital Content an unlimited number of times, solely on the Device or as authorized by Amazon as part of the Service and solely for your personal, non-commercial use. Digital Content will be deemed licensed to you by Amazon under this Agreement unless otherwise expressly provided by Amazon.



So it would seem that you'll get charged a fee for any wireless connection outside the buying of books. AND that you cannot read an Amazon purchased ebook on anything (not even your computer) than the one Kindle. (As opposed to the 6 or so devices that can be authorized by MS Lit and Mobipocket).

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Old 11-19-2007, 11:55 AM   #78
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Hey, we've not been tender to anyone. I don't think it's any reason we're being bypassed. But the fact that we have their manuals on site might.
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:59 AM   #79
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There's a little blurb at the bottom of the Kindle store:
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:01 PM   #80
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Well, I guess Alexander should go ahead and tell them we're here...^^
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:01 PM   #81
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The Kindle is shown on the front page of Amazon.com and I did see that the Kindle is working on the site. Say it on Good Morning America.
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:02 PM   #82
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Well, I guess Alexander should go ahead and tell them we're here...^^
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:03 PM   #83
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The more people contact them the better!
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:04 PM   #84
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Nope.. They first have the get the Kindle to the consumers for that to happen.
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:05 PM   #85
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I guess I'm not too surprised that Amazon wants to lock people into reading Kindle editions only on the Kindle. (Disappointed, but not too surprised.) But I'm stunned that the Kindle doesn't support DRM'd Mobipocket. I can't see what that gets them. So what if people could buy content from other vendors who sell mobi format? If they keep their prices down, why would anyone bother?

If .AZW is really non-DRM mobi... does that mean you could buy a book (if you had a Kindle registered to your account) and read it using a mobi reader on the PC?
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You think MR has been too Sony-friendly, and too Amazon-unfriendly? That would be a very cheap shot for not including our community ;(
I'm not saying MR has overly-supported or under-supported anyone... just that MR mentions other e-book sources, and has occasionally been critical of the Kindle. Groups have been shut out for less in the business world...
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:12 PM   #87
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Heard from Random House and Simon & Schuster that all content will be made in all formats. No exclusive Kindle deal.
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Heard from Random House and Simon & Schuster that all content will be made in all formats. No exclusive Kindle deal.
That's not surprising, but it is gratifying to have it confirmed. That means it's definitely going to be a matter of "a rising tide," and all the boats will be able to benefit.
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Info about the Kindle is still unclear. Don't jump to negative conclusions. Here's what they say over at engadget:
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  • It doesn't use a generic RSS aggregator -- it's Amazon-selected blogs only (and they "want every blog they can get"). Blogs that are aggregated by the Kindle get a revenue share with Amazon, since it costs money to get those publications.
  • The side scroller is, as we expected, a polarized PNLCD (pneumatic LCD). It looks amazing.
  • It's SD only, not SDHC.
  • It uses the Kindle file format (which is a variant of structured HTML), but also accepts Word and PDF files (but only via email since they need to be converted by Amazon), Mobi, HTML, plaintext, and image files like JPEG, GIF, and PNG. Sorry, no RTF.
  • Oh yes, it supports Audible! Oh, and a little, unused file format called MP3.
  • It has a user-replaceable, 1530mAh battery
  • You can bind five or six devices to a single account, and share books you've purchased to those accounts. There's no simultaneous reading lock, so if you and your significant other are on the same Amazon account you can both read the same book at the same time on your Kindles.
  • Amazon is also releasing the Digital Text Platform, which allows users to upload their own content to the Kindle store for sale and download.
  • The $9.99 price point is the sweet spot, but there are books for sale from the Gutenberg project for under $1 (if you don't want to download them for free yourself), and upwards of that quoted $10 price point as well.
  • Amazon wouldn't say who makes the device, just that "it's an OEM in China."
So contrary to da_jane's post, it seems like you can read purchases in multiple locations at the same time with no problem.

I would suspect that Amazon may provide home computer software to do the same conversion as the network-based upload. Otherwise users with no EVDO service would be stuck.
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