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09-19-2020, 07:06 PM | #16 |
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09-19-2020, 07:23 PM | #17 |
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And while most non-Apple smartphones have a USBC connector, Motorola's still releasing smartphones on the extremely low-end with microusb.
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09-20-2020, 02:09 AM | #18 |
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I agree and I have one or two strong opinions as well hence the disagreements.
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09-20-2020, 11:17 AM | #19 | |
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USB still is not peer to peer like Firewire could be. USB-C still doesn't really fix the issue and the USB2Go on phones/tablets was a stupidly implemented kludge as almost none could be charged while in Host mode on the same port, even with a Y cable. USB-C true Hosts and Peripherals are still really two classes of gear. A recent brand new tablet sensibly has a separate coax power socket to charge. It can charge via its micro USB / USB2Go connector. Unfortunately unlike most phones and tablets (though a phone we have does this), by default the USB port is in charging mode ONLY and the tablet doesn't appear as a USB device on a laptop.You've to go into a menu EVERY time, so stupid. Perhaps it's a security feature. So apart from the standards of the connectors the software stack and functionality of existing microUSB/USB2Go vary and USB-C is even worse in terms of variable functions because there are more modes and interface on the one connector. It may become more popular, but it won't be used on every new thing with USB peripheral or host sockets. It's a marketing design that actually fails to solve actual USB issues, instead adding more things to get wrong such as charging up to 20V and 100W, more connecting modes, secondary serial data for power negotiation and a digital video port already less capable than HDMI. There is a micro HDMI port, in use over six years, but a lot of phones and tablets changed to RF "casting" instead, which is much poorer often slows WiFi and most TVs with HDMI don't have it. Also only works on some applications on some phones. |
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09-20-2020, 08:55 PM | #20 |
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A couple of months ago, I bought a Samsung 10e. My first new phone in several years. It has a USB-C port, while everything else is USB Micro. Since it is the only device I have with this connector, I wasn't about to go out and purchase new wires, it isn't necessary. But what I did do was go on Amazon and get these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 This way I get to utilize the wires I already have, and have connectors in case I get any more devices that utilize USB-C. |
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09-21-2020, 12:25 AM | #21 |
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Isn't this a good thing? New features can be added without requiring a new connector. If your hardware/software is older and doesn't support the newer features, is that the connectors fault?
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09-21-2020, 05:46 AM | #22 |
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I have two laptops and and iPad Pro with usb-c, no issues.
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09-21-2020, 06:48 AM | #23 |
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But then you may need new cables that look exactly like the existing cables and then how do you differentiate one cable form the other? That makes things more confusing, not less. I'd rather have a one-sided cable then a cable that's easy to plug in but may not work.
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09-21-2020, 07:07 AM | #24 |
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09-21-2020, 11:03 AM | #25 | |
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What do you do when you need to hook it up to a TV for a presentation or read data from USB thumb drive? Or use a traditional cordless mouse or keyboard? Or read an SD Card?
That's my problem with USB-C. All the dongles needed to make a USB-C only laptop compatible with all the external devices you used to hook up to via various built-in ports. I don't see the advantage. |
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Or get one of these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QXMNF1X Or one of the adapters mentioned earlier? |
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09-22-2020, 09:29 AM | #29 | |
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More and more devices are coming with USB C too. I have external HDD/SSDs with USB C that benefit from the faster speeds, USB C keyboards, USB C tablets, USB C game consoles, etc. USB C ports can also offer video out, power in, faster speeds than USB A ports. It's awesome being able to pick which side the power adapter plugs into on my laptop when I need it. I can also lend friends my power adapter if they need it despite having an entirely different brand of laptop or device. I've had confusing cases with microUSB too, like cables that can't carry data, only charge. Yes, manufactuers could be a bit better with labelling, but overall the good far outweighs the bad. |
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