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If you're really, really curious, feel free to process the source ePub with Kindle Previewer and upload it to KDP. This behavior might be caused by outdated iOS Kindle apps (for example, drop-caps were only introduced in 4.9), CSS issues or weird KDP bugs. |
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Let me ask this, this way: how many books do you/your clients (?) have up for sale on Amazon, and of those, how many have iPads, and have loaded the AZK, via side-loading, and then loaded the for-sale books? I am NOT asking in any kind of combative way: I'm asking for numbers/data/statistics. HItch |
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You would need to upload a Kindlegen created file or a ePub to Amazon to get an AZK. If you upload a KF7 then that is what you get out.
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I finish in Sigil, upload the epub to the KDP, let it convert, and download the converted book. I don't find that a burdensome procedure at all; the thirty seconds or so it takes to convert, I spend reading the NYT headlines online (and I would of course have to go through that conversion anyhow). I then preview it in Kindle Previewer, which I find very accurate. Basically, I don't trust Amazon not to make stealth changes in the conversion process, so that's the version I want to preview. Similarly, I buy a copy of the book as soon as it's available, to see what changes have been made in the publishing process. To be sure, my books are simple, no media calls or like that. |
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Were you speaking to me? We don't make KF7-only files. I don't think we've done that since...2010, or thereabouts. Whenever KF8 started, we instantly started making KF8-mobis, with the whole enchilada inside--source, KF7, KF8, and we starting using media queries immediately. If you were speaking to someone else, I'm not sure what it's in relation to? Which post, or...? Hitch |
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By the way:
As a follow-up, in case ANYONE here gives a crap, the books that come out, for sale, on Amazon, are NOT AZK. They aren't even remotely "KF8." We've been working on this for several weeks now, with a specific set of format elements that we've been dealing with, and AZK is like....I am not sure what the HELL Amazon thinks that's for, other than utterly misleading people, but for example, if you set images with percentages (less than 100% for width), you get KF7 results, NOT KF8. As stated previously, the output is KF7 on an iPad, of whatever generation. You can almost use KP's DX emulator, to see what you're going to get. Not quite--but a hell of a lot closer than AZK, which is NOTHING like the real, final, for-sale output. And yes, today, I'm mad as hell about it. Hitch |
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Why would Amazon develop azkcreator.exe if they didn't plan on using it? Why would they advertise drop caps capability in their latest iOS version (4.9.1), which is a KF8-only feature? (Unless, of course, drop caps capability is the only KF8 feature that is officially supported.) I'm assuming that you and your client have already tried the following: Installed and registered the latest iOS Kindle app (4.9.1) on an iPad model with iOS 7.1.2 (or higher) and then bought and downloaded the book in question. (Older iOS devices and apps might not be supported.) It that's the case and a sideloaded AZK version of the same file displays fine, there's a KDP backend problem that Amazon needs to fix. My guess is that their pipeline tool might fall back to KF7 mode if it encounters CSS rules that it can't handle and your book might just contain such a style. BTW, did you report this as a KDP bug and what does KDP support say? |
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Honestly, no, I didn't. K4iOS has been buggy, to my way of thinking, for so long that I don't think about it, unless/until I run into something here or out and about saying that (no offense) AZK is representative of what the "4sale" mobi looks like on K4iPad, and then my brain melts, thinking "oh, yeah, but...nyah. Not really." However, I suppose, all things being equal, it won't hurt for me to point it out to them, for whatever that's worth. And it's also true that, with all due modesty (I really mean that; it's the luck of the draw and the type of books we get that have forced the issue; truthfully, I'd be ecstatic if we pulled down 100% fiction every month, myself, although the bookmakers would be cranky and bored with it PDQ), we are probably doing some things, coding-wise, in commercial books, that isn't being done in most places, and so...hell, maybe they DON'T know. They didn't know--more than once--that they'd done something in the KDP intake process that was eating and digesting and not regurgitating fonts; they didn't know, two years back, that they'd utterly bollixed the SRL location...so...maybe they really DO NOT know. Ergo, being thus motivated by your good self, Doits, I'll go tell them about it. We've had to create coding workarounds {SIGH} for some of this crap, too (even to hiding one image, displaying another, depending on the version, yabbety-yab), so...heck, if they fix it, I'd be tickled. {shrug}. However, I had a minor med. procedure last Thursday, launched our new website yesterday, and have dozens of heavily-formatted books in to quote and (of course) create samples for, so...it won't be tomorrow. I need some bloody rest, especially after birthin' that website baby. A girl needs her beauty sleep, y'know. |
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but not all, not all at all
Hitch, I do enjoy your phrasing, and have appropriated one or two ("automagical" is now a favorite locution of mine). Sometimes I wonder if you shouldn't be writing the books instead of formatting them! love - NJ |
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Hitch, congrats on the new website! Looks nice.
(Automagical, I love that word. Been using it for years and years and years. ) |
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It looks like K4iOS supports some but not all KF8 features and I wouldn't be surprised at all if it turned out that Amazon really only implemented drop caps and a handful of other cosmetic features. However, based on mattmc's K4iOS, AZK, The Latest post it looks like Amazon delivers a file format to K4iOS that is very close to the format that AZKCreator.exe generates. I asked mattmc to chime in on this, however, since he hasn't visited in MR in weeks, we might not get an answer. BTW, I like your new website, however, the About us link is broken. It points to: Code:
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I adore the voodoo doll. Speaking of appropriating things... {insert evil grin here]... On the topic of K4iOS/yadda, we spent some time yesterday, as I'm mentioned (and as you all no doubt noticed, in a fit of pique posted about it) working on a book for an important client of ours, in which we have floating content. We have pullquotes (which resize with the font, both the text and the surrounding brackets), and images. According to Barb (after spending the entire day on it yesterday, AT LEAST, not for the first time)--bar none, the best maker here: "AZK ignores width settings in percents. Floating only works if you have something that is physically small enough to fit in at the side of the text." This was after extensive, and I mean, EXTENSIVE testing yesterday, which came hot on the heels of some fairly extensive work and testing before yesterday. If AZK were really following KF8, neither of those things would be true, and as I said to Barb, today, the thing with the "floating" success being due to SIZE is....to my mind, irrational. Period. I can't even explicate that to myself as a damn bug. n.b.: let's not forget that Voyage has that weirdo width bug, too, for images? Not the same, mind you...but not totally dissimilar, either. If you have an image that's <50% wide in Voyage, you're set; but if it's 51%, you're screwed, it blows up to full width. Now, again: this isn't the same as this wacky, "the image won't float unless it's SMALL enough, in iOS," but...I wonder if they are in some wild-ass way related? In some algo, somewhere? FWIW. And yes, My Little Voodoo Doll, I shall inform the Lords of Light at Amazon forthwith. I need another day's sleep, please, before I try to sound coherent. I'm only posting here to a) be polite, and b) because I know you lovelies won't hold idiocy against me if I blither. ;-) Hitch |
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