05-10-2013, 11:11 AM | #16 |
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Right now, it's unclear if stripping DRM is legal or not. Fair Use may trump the DMCA. If this comes to pass, then it won't matter any longer. There will not need to a legal ruling. But for now, DRM gets removed here legal or not.
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05-10-2013, 12:21 PM | #17 |
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A change in the DMCA is needed. The present law infringes the rights of consumers in a way that encourages disrespect for the law by promoting an illegal act in order for consumers to exercise their right to use something they purchased in an open marketplace.
Having said that I think there is an exception because public libraries are a necessary "public good." In order for library borrowing to continue working as we transition to digital media there has to be a means for library loans to expire. |
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05-10-2013, 12:36 PM | #19 |
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I agree, except that we would have a law which was more fair, rational, and more in line with the good of society and the spirit of copyright protection.
I'm all for it, if it's as the OP states. I'll have to go read the article, and see if I need to write my Representative and voice my support. |
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I think, however, that your first sentence indicates that you would agree that the question of whether or not removing DRM violates the DMCA is far from settled law in the U.S. Do I have that right? Xenophon |
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05-10-2013, 01:44 PM | #23 | |
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That said, I would also be really interested in any legal discussion of those provisions that do suggest that they are invalid. I haven't gone out of my way to find those discussions, so they could certainly exist. Last edited by Ninjalawyer; 05-10-2013 at 01:52 PM. |
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05-10-2013, 01:51 PM | #25 | |
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The courts have disagreed with each other. It's far from settled, and an explicit clarifying change like we're discussing here would be very welcomed....and it would also be fiercely fought by the film industry and others. Here's one article on the matter from one IP law firm, which clearly has an understandably biased take on the matter: http://sunsteinlaw.com/the-dmca-re-f...urity-devices/ Last edited by ApK; 05-10-2013 at 01:55 PM. |
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05-10-2013, 02:02 PM | #26 | |
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Do we want to be a society where we pass and live under bad laws, flaunting them, ignoring them or enforcing them at capricious whim? Or do we want to be one where we actively question and work to improve our laws, to the point that everyone knows that the ones left on the books are meaningful and should be respected? Can I get an A-men, brothers and sisters?!? ApK |
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And if publishers do do away with DRM then it is unlikely that there will be library ebooks anymore. Helen |
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05-10-2013, 02:23 PM | #28 |
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And I bet the vendors of DRM'd books and movies spend a lot of money and effort to try to stop people from downloading those applications. Even if the application is hosted somewhere that isn't in their jurisdiction the eventual spot where they are downloaded may be. And what if the person who created the application is living in an area within the jurisdiction of the people who put the DRM on books and movies? Couldn't they then be sued for having uploaded the application in the 1st place? The net may be everywhere and nowhere, but the terminals where people log on to it have set geographical coordinates in the real world.
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But I don't expect anything to change. |
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05-10-2013, 02:40 PM | #30 |
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That was my point...publishers spend tons of money on this whole DRM scheme, which is only marginally successful (pirates don't care that they are breaking the law). If it becomes legal then DRM removal will be super easy (bundled with normal software and accomplished with a click) and free (the tools are already free). There won't even be the concept of legality to keep honest people honest (as far as removing the DRM is concerned).
Publishers wouldn't spend all that money when there is no gain...they will no longer pay for it...thus the end of DRM. |
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