11-05-2006, 05:26 PM | #61 |
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I disagree, slayda, with the notion that there aren't any retail costs for e-books. Even if the Pub or Author, for that matter decides to sell the e-books themselves, they'll have to have some infrastructure to handle that. Even if they purchase pre-made e-commerce package and run it off-the-shelf, there'll be the cost of the package and hardware to run it on, and folks to keep it all running, etc.
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11-06-2006, 01:59 AM | #63 | |
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A $7.95 paperback wholesales to the retailer for $3.50 - $4.00, and may even have been supplied to a distributor first for $2.80 - 3.40. Of that, say $3.50, the publisher pays $1 for printing and shipping, $0.75 for royalties, leaving a marginal gross profit of $1.75 per titles. Out of that needs to come the costs for development, formatting, publicity, administration, an allowance for returns and remainders, and profit. Now, an ebook publisher, producing only ebook titles, can save on the printing and shipping. Unfortunately you cannot eliminate the retail channel, since most readers want a selection of books from multiple publishers, and won't be interested in visiting each publishers' website to find their titles. And, if you are using ANY retail channel, then as a publisher you cannot undercut your retailers and sell for less on your website, not unless you want to alienate your dealers. The amortized costs for publicity, development, editing, formatting and administration have to be spread across the entire "print" run - and at the moment, ebooks are a niche market and as such have fairly high shared costs compared to print books because there are fewer electronic copies being sold. But, don't take my word for it - start up your own publishing company and give it a try. |
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Retail costs for a physical product are for shelf space, stocking fees, taxes for stock on hand, etc. Most of those costs disappear for eBooks, and the rest of those costs are greatly reduced. So instead of taking a $3.50 cut, a retailer takes $1 for an eBook. Quote:
Since copying of an eBook is effectively free, an author can offer it through many retail channels at once. There is no shortage of copies like there is in the pBook world. Quote:
Also related to this is the selling of eBooks today at greater than hardcover prices. |
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11-06-2006, 11:20 AM | #65 | |
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We don't handle any physical inventory at our office, and still running the office and the data center alone is pretty expensive. I don't think Fictionwise has ever fessed up to their sales figures, but I somehow doubt they're selling millions of titles a month. |
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11-06-2006, 05:50 PM | #66 | |||
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As ebooks mature and the market grows, I would expect to see $3.99 or $5.99 ebook "paperbacks" a la iTunes. Even so, you would need to have a large reading market, and I'm just not that confident that in the future the percentage of people who read for pleasure will stay even at its current rate. Quote:
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One of the downsides of ebooks is that, unlike pbooks where unsold copies are "remaindered in place" - i.e. sold for a fraction of their list price in order to save the cost of shipping them back - it's actually more expensive it terms of time and labour to reduce the price of an existing ebook. And since there is no anticipated savings on shipping or remaindered copies, there's little incentive to decrease the price. Personally, I wish the publishers would get smart and adjust their ebook prices in line with whatever their current market price is for the same title. I know I'd buy more books if that were the case because I hate feeling ripped when buying a book. |
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11-06-2006, 06:09 PM | #67 | |
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So I tend to agree that it's going to be very hard to make a living (authors, retailers...) in the e-book business at low price points, and conversely, people do not want to pay too much for e-content. That to me is the ultimate dillema for e-books, more than drm and the Tower of Babel in formats. Liviu |
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11-06-2006, 06:39 PM | #68 | ||
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Author writes book (probably on a word processor). Provides file to publisher. Publisher clicks twice and - viola - eBook. Where's the "amortized fixed costs" for an eBook? If the publisher wants to set up their own eBook store, then that is their decision based on whether or not they think they can make money. It's like McDonalds saying "we are going to charge double for a hamburger for the next year cuz we need money to build a new restaurant." But those costs are avoidable since they can rent someone else's infrastructure. They do so today at places like eReader, but the prices that they charge for the eBook is more than the price of the hardcover paper version. There's no excuse for that. Quote:
There is no such thing as an "unsold copy" of an eBook. Copies are made as people buy them - for almost no cost. Reducing the price of an eBook is as simple as going in to the web interface to the database and changing the price. |
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11-06-2006, 06:44 PM | #69 | |
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eBook - Most Fictionwise books that I've seen are about $4. If Fictionwise takes 50%, then the author gets the other $50 or $2 per eBook sold. It seems to me that $2.00 > $1.00. Now, I agree that today it will be impossible for an author to make money off an eBook but that's simply because the market is small today. When eBooks start selling like paper books do today, then that's a different story. |
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But I think you know that, and at this point your are arguing for argument's sake. If you really don't know what is entailed in the publishing process, well, I just can't help you. I'm not up for delivering a graduate seminar in publishing. Quote:
What I was trying to point out is that since that issue doesn't pertain to ebooks - i.e. there are no unsold copies to be shipped back - there is often no incentive to radically reduce the price. Since leaving the book out there floating in the ether costs so little, why bother reissuing an ISBN number for a new lower-priced version, or giving the retailer a huge discount in hopes that a few more copies would sell. The marginal profit on the new copies would need to recoup costs and time spent, and, until the market grows, those additional sales are not particularly spectactular. |
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Furthermore, has anyone done any market studies to see if reducing the price of ebooks would actually increase sales? Sounds counter-intuitive, but I'm willing to bet that if the current $25 hardcover best seller were sold for $1 as an ebook, there would be a big discussion about what under-valuing a product does to its market perception. |
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Unless there is a coop system or an "universal ranking" based on preference, or something, as an unkwnown author you need a filter through which you get exposure. Publishers do this, mostly not that great, but still right now is what we have. Liviu |
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11-07-2006, 10:42 AM | #73 | |
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As for the points above: 2. Backlight, what everyone else has said, its better without it. 3. I've had to adjust to making sure I actually read the very last line before I turn the page, in a real book I read it while I'm turning. But I consider that small potatoes. Reading is the slowest medium and the fact a page turn takes a half-second instead of an 1/8 of a second isn't a problem. 1 and 4 are directly related. Yes there is a cost if you're buying new books but older books actually run a little less than paperbacks. There's also the fact that there are thousands of works of classic literature available for free through Project Gutenberg. Plus, while the PG files work on the reader, you can get them more 'reader friendly', through manybooks.net. There's a major selling point here: Parents with junior high students. If they buy their kid this now thats 8-10 years of free access to all the classical required reading they'll face through high school and college. Another major selling point is the Renaissance. Everyone wants to have that big leatherbound collection of classical works. Few people have the space or funds to have it. Now they can and who knows, they might actually read some it. The only drawback here is hopefuly newer models will let you store really large collections on the device (without a memory stick) and be able to sort it easily. |
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11-07-2006, 12:31 PM | #75 |
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I think that you are dead-on regarding this being a wise investment for parents--provided that children can be trusted with a $350 electronic device. Of course, it seems a glut of junior high schooler now own/want their own cell phone &/ iPod, so there could be hope. Wonder if SONY would be willing to give group/bulk discounts. If the marketing department sought out PTA's and Departments of Education, they could carve out quite a large niche. That is, providing that they do not step on the toes of the publishers. Maybe a tie in with Scholastic Reader? They could have a RSS feed for the the Reader.... At any rate, Great point Maccool |
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