11-13-2020, 10:27 AM | #811 | |
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I don't know why "Eddierm" felt the need to "update" his Kobo firmware, but he seems to have been pretty satisfied with what he had with KSM and an earlier Kobo firmware. An Operating System (OS) and programs running well on a device, don't age and go bad. They can only keep running as they do, they don't spontaneously change. The hardware can degrade (the battery) or become damaged but short of an outside attack the software will keep working as it always has. Luck; Ken |
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11-13-2020, 01:18 PM | #812 | |
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For anyone who has an existing KSM install that they can no longer access, is anyone feeling adventurous and want to try the attached script (unzip first, then place KoboRoot.tgz in .kobo), which I made by rearranging things back to the old order (minus a lot of tshering's old customizations outside the KSM launch stuff; I'm not sure how much of it is still needed and I don't think maintaining backwards compatibility will be easy going forward with all the potential hardware changes coming down the pipe anyway)? WARNING: If it doesn't work, you may have an unbootable machine, in which case you'd need a way to remove your internal SD card and replace the /etc/init.d/rcS file with a working one from the stock firmware. I can't test it myself because I can't find my damn SD-microSD adapter card so I'd have no way to recover if it didn't work. Anyway, if this doesn't work, then I'm not sure off the top of my head. I might have time to look closer after NaNoWriMo; I enjoy KSM too and had a lot of customizations that I miss. But I also have a working solution to launch other things via NickelMenu now, so if this is indeed the end of the road for me and KSM on my GloHD, I'm not too choked up. And here's the script, in case anyone wants to check my math; I basically moved the firmware upgrade stuff back nearer to the bottom where it used to be, and the wifi stuff back to the middle where it used to be, then stuck the KSM launcher stuff in between where it used to live: Spoiler:
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11-13-2020, 05:13 PM | #813 |
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Why are you bothering to try to get KSM to work by potentially bricking Kobos instead of just doing the decent thing and suggesting that the currently working solution of NickelMenu and KFMon? That's highly irresponsibly.
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11-13-2020, 05:15 PM | #814 | |
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11-13-2020, 08:37 PM | #815 | |
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And while I don't use KSM, NickelMenu and KFMon, the latter are not real replacements for KSM. Or that is how it looks to me. With KSM you can boot directly to an alternative reader, such as KOReader, without ever seeing the Kobo software. That is what some people want to do and it makes a lot of sense to do that if you don't want to use nickel. Jon: One warning is reasonable. But, continuing to harp on about it when the people involved are clearly demonstrating that they know what they are doing it only going to damage your reputation. Last edited by davidfor; 11-13-2020 at 08:41 PM. |
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11-14-2020, 12:52 AM | #816 | |
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Why keep telling same thing over and over and over? You think that they are idiots? You think you need to "hammer" into their stupid heads something you decided they have to think? The truth is simple: KSM 9 still works for some of us and we are (OK, I am) pretty happy with it. For me, KSM is live and kicking. For some it doesn't work. Well, that is said in the very first post of this thread by the developer. What more do you want? If someone don't want to read first post which is necessary to be read to be able to install KSM, what more you think you need to tell these persons? Really, I don't get you, so much hate and animosity towards anyone or anything is pretty strange and a bell for alarm for me. Last edited by Alan_S; 11-14-2020 at 12:58 AM. |
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11-14-2020, 01:05 AM | #817 | |
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I don't have any use for nickel, don't like it, don't want to see it if I don't have to (and with KSM I don't have to). Everything works fine with KSM on my devices which I don't update because updates basically update nickel, rarely anything that would be useful to me. There's also some other things that KSM can do (and does) for me that I use and all in all, I'm very happy with KSM. When I'd get new devices that would have too new firmwares to use KSM, then I'll use NM and I'm very happy and extremely grateful to NM's developers for their work and effort, really, I really appreciate what they do, but I still at the moment on my current devices prefer KSM. And KSM works for me. I also hope that in some future moment tshering will continue to develop KSM, but, well, I understand him as well. On the other hand, I can't understand how someone so much insist that something is "dead" and keeps harping that ad nauseum. |
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11-14-2020, 06:06 PM | #818 |
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The firmware can include updates to the Linux components. The two that I can think of that happened this year are to Busybox and dosfstools.
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11-14-2020, 06:46 PM | #819 |
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And the kernel, which is fairly critical, because, for instance, early (or not so early...) Mk. 7 kernels were... let's go with "fun".
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11-15-2020, 12:29 AM | #820 |
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Yes, I'm aware of this fact, this is when update breaks things like KSM and they stop working.
But, as Ken mentioned, if device works fine with old firmware (and KSM plus koreader or something like that), there's no need to upgrade it. You can, but then you risk breaking something. So, I stay with firmware that I have from moment I bought device, use KSM plus koreader and I'm happy with it. I know that other people prefer things differently and that is fine with me. If I'm happy and they are happy, we all are happy. |
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11-15-2020, 07:36 PM | #822 | |
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11-15-2020, 07:38 PM | #823 |
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Enough, Jon.You've expressed your opinion more than enough times to become very annoying. If someone wants to run KSM, it's their choice. If someone does not want the latest firmware, again, their device, their choice.
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11-16-2020, 01:57 AM | #824 |
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And your actions, what you do here is also outside the norm.
Did you see first post of this thread? What more do you want? Please, explain, what more can be done that you would become content with KSM situation today as it is now? As you should be able to see, first post more than clearly explain everything to anyone who reads it. Also, installation instructions are in that first post, behind spoiler tags, so you can't install KSM without reading first post (did you read what's written in first post of this thread?). So, either we deal with people who already have KSM and use it happily for whatever (you would say perverse, outside the norm) reasons they use it. Or, new users who don't have KSM already installed would need to read info about KSM no longer been supported, no longer working on new firmwares and devices. So, what more can be done? What's missing that would make you happy, outside your ad nausem writing that KSM is "dead"? |
11-16-2020, 04:41 PM | #825 | |
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But like I said, I spent less than 10 minutes looking at this. I may try again when I have time at the end of the month, but no promises that I'll be able to figure out what's going on. If anyone else has any ideas, I'm all ears. I'm going to miss KSM if this is really the end. :-/ |
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