What are the advantages and disadvantages of implementing ebooks in schools? - Page 2

Quoth · 03-11-2024, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by neil_swann80

With a previous model of laptop in the loan lockers, some wily users had noticed the RAM upgrade hatch on the underside of the laptop.

In the 1990s an entire classroom of PCs stopped working in a place we did IT support for. Someone had stolen all the RAM.

theducks · 03-11-2024, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Quoth

In the 1990s an entire classroom of PCs stopped working in a place we did IT support for. Someone had stolen all the RAM.

I remember those days... I had to go to 'Finance' (they had the Safe) to get our RAM for today's work. 4M of RAM was almost $1000 in the 1980's . Chip theft was a huge problem in the Silicon Valley as $1,000,000 of chips fit in a Pizza sized box

neil_swann80 · 03-11-2024, 10:08 AM

The most common problem at the University now is high-end graphics cards being stolen.

Calenorn · 03-11-2024, 10:43 AM

Students need to learn how to function with the current technology. Many will not be getting this at home.

DNSB · 03-11-2024, 09:21 PM

And too many students don't care about the computers they are using at school. Just before I retired, a few students decided that spending their time damaging the lenses on optical mice was fun. A decade earlier, we ended up adding security screws and other devices to keep the students from being able to easily open computers since they were stealing RAM, CPUs, hard drives, etc.

rjwse@aol.com · 03-12-2024, 05:51 AM

In my opinion in the USA government schools the printed textbook industry is a racket, the books being extremely expensive, high price being more-or-less invisible to taxpayers. There is no reason why all kid's textbooks in the USA should not be ebooks all in the public domain. I had to buy $500 textbooks in my university classes and that is even worse. All in all, you COULD blame it on paper binding, but that is not whole of it. People being forced to buy an overly expensive book is the problem. For kids, at least, I would like to see learning modules that run on ebooks; parents buy the reader; information is free.

theducks · 03-12-2024, 12:05 PM

@rjwse
Part of the problem is Local School boards dictating what is ALLOWED to be taught in THEIR SCHOOL SYSTEMS. (we are talking both political and religious censorship). Next is 'Must have the latest version'...itis

Then there are those educators that publish books and get them adopted (a Royalty stream??) or required for the course.

Software based training is no better. It goes both ways. A few years back, I had to complete a required online training to be qualified to work at a VA facility.
I tried to run the course only to be told 'your version of Java is wrong. You must use version x.y" x.y was a major level downgrade

I see deliberate obsolescence of either the students device or the host OS as the next big profit center for school book creators.

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03-11-2024, 10:08 AM	#18
neil_swann80 0000000000101010 Posts: 5,191 Karma: 10057265 Join Date: Mar 2023 Location: An island off the coast of Ireland Device: PB632 [HD3]	The most common problem at the University now is high-end graphics cards being stolen.

03-11-2024, 10:43 AM	#19
Calenorn Brash Fumbler Posts: 1,160 Karma: 8710811 Join Date: May 2013 Device: NST, Kobo Mini	Students need to learn how to function with the current technology. Many will not be getting this at home.

03-11-2024, 09:21 PM	#20
DNSB Bibliophagist Posts: 35,464 Karma: 145525534 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vancouver Device: Kobo Sage, Forma, Clara HD, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos	And too many students don't care about the computers they are using at school. Just before I retired, a few students decided that spending their time damaging the lenses on optical mice was fun. A decade earlier, we ended up adding security screws and other devices to keep the students from being able to easily open computers since they were stealing RAM, CPUs, hard drives, etc.

03-12-2024, 05:51 AM	#21
rjwse@aol.com Addict Posts: 283 Karma: 2228060 Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: LaVernia, Texas Device: kindle epub readers on android	In my opinion in the USA government schools the printed textbook industry is a racket, the books being extremely expensive, high price being more-or-less invisible to taxpayers. There is no reason why all kid's textbooks in the USA should not be ebooks all in the public domain. I had to buy $500 textbooks in my university classes and that is even worse. All in all, you COULD blame it on paper binding, but that is not whole of it. People being forced to buy an overly expensive book is the problem. For kids, at least, I would like to see learning modules that run on ebooks; parents buy the reader; information is free.

03-12-2024, 12:05 PM	#22
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 29,809 Karma: 54830978 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	@rjwse Part of the problem is Local School boards dictating what is ALLOWED to be taught in THEIR SCHOOL SYSTEMS. (we are talking both political and religious censorship). Next is 'Must have the latest version'...itis Then there are those educators that publish books and get them adopted (a Royalty stream??) or required for the course. Software based training is no better. It goes both ways. A few years back, I had to complete a required online training to be qualified to work at a VA facility. I tried to run the course only to be told 'your version of Java is wrong. You must use version x.y" x.y was a major level downgrade I see deliberate obsolescence of either the students device or the host OS as the next big profit center for school book creators.