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I think there's a bit of a learning curve with audiobooks. I started with rereads of familiar books, so it didn't matter much if my mind wandered--I knew the stories.
I don't sit and concentrate on audiobooks, but I listen while involved in rather mindless, boring activities--like walking or doing housework. |
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Today, and for the last few years if I do that I'll fall asleep. I miss being able to do that. And that's true of music and audiobooks and audio drama and old time radio shows. If I do something with my hands, just about anything, I'm fine. If not, I'm sleeping. Barry |
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Yep. Seems to be lack of visual input that does it for me. I never fall asleep when I'm reading, but try to concentrate on something audible only and it knocks me out almost instantly.
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My intent was not to disparage audiobooks (although I didn't like my daughter equating audible with reading). Just find the tag line very demeaning to readers, and since Amazon got its start as a bookstore, kind of surprised. Although I guess Bezos is a marketer, not a book seller. |
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I think everything old becomes new again eventually. Listening to a story isn't a new form of reading. For thousands of years people listened to the village storyteller or the travelling one that would tell stories in exchange for lodging. That's how stories were passed on before people learned how to write.
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Reading uses our eyes, listening uses our ears, two different senses utilizing two different body parts.
Neither of which compromises our comprehension of the material. But without a doubt listening to a book is not the same as reading a book. This is why I pay no attention to marketing propaganda, they are just full of crap. |
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Yes, and thank goodness different senses are used. I couldn't read for 10 years due to brain injury, but I could listen to audiobooks and comprehend most of them just fine. Just don't tell a blind person that they are not reading - you'll just annoy them. As to the 'cheating' issue that others have commented on, this was discussed in another thread and I think the idea came about because before the late 1990s, most audiobooks were abridged. So a book that took you 20 hours to read, could be narrated to you in 4-5. Clearly, not the same thing. |
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I think of Braille usage as reading for two reasons: it's the same individual experience and intuition of the text and the text is composed of words which are spelled. Similarly, I think GeoffR is right when he said that listening to Morse Code is the aural equivalent of reading.
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Yes, it is my favorite remedy for insomnia. I just have to remember to set a bookmark so I can go back and listen to what I missed.
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