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I suggest you read up about the Dimensions of Power by a sociologist called Lukes. It is a very interesting read although the language is very academic. I was out of practise with such language and had to look at a less academic version to confirm my understanding. I would also recomend you try reading "On Liberty" by John Stuart Mill. The language is old fashioned but it contains a lot of good stuff You may then understand my position and if I read it correctly that of Darryl. I have said all I can say on this topic and am unlikely to post in this thread again. Last edited by Thasaidon; 01-06-2018 at 08:57 PM. Reason: Rearranged sentences to make better sense. |
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Information wants to be free.
EDIT: Full quote if anyone is interested. On the one hand information wants to be expensive, because it's so valuable. The right information in the right place just changes your life. On the other hand, information wants to be free, because the cost of getting it out is getting lower and lower all the time. So you have these two fighting against each other. Last edited by sealbeater; 01-07-2018 at 03:44 PM. |
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I once mentioned some things about the early history of ebooks before they were called ebooks and before there ebooks were for sale anywhere and I was asked not to refer to that. A few months later I referred to it again, probably thinking it was innocent enough, and I was suspended for a a few days. Maybe a week. I forget.
The things I referred to, which I dare not list, were things done in perfect innocence by good people who had no idea that what they were doing would someday come to be called piracy. And yet what I said wasn't allowed. That fascinating portion of the history of ebooks can't be told here. I do understand a reluctance to discuss this issue and I won't discuss piracy on this forum again. There there be monsters! But copyright is a very different issue and, I think, a legitimate issue to discuss in any book related forum. I don't know of any threats to any one for discussing copyright matters in this thread. I'd be surprised if there were any. Barry |
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My basic take is that the real issue is the cost and ease of enforcement. It's a bit like speed limits. In the US, as long as you stay within certain boundaries and avoid certain areas, speed limits are rarely enforced. Copyright is fairly similar. There is a reason that foreign copyrights were not enforced in the US until the late 70's. For the most part, it simply wasn't worth the effort. It was only when there was a significant foreign market in movies did the US become interested. It's almost impossible to enforce copyright outside certain areas. |
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The area of copyright and patents for works done with public money is very much a gray area. I will say that in the US, educational use falls under the fair use doctrine. The issue of academic journals, as opposed to the individual articles in them are a different matter. I suspect that in many cases one can get a copy of an academic article, just by contacting the author and asking. I also suspect that the law of unintended consequences would kick in if the actual journals were excluded from copyright. Most academic journals are expensive because they have a very limited readership and it cost money to put them out. |
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After my last post I thought I would look a little bit at the history of Copyright. In doing so I came across the site below. It has some interesting information about the history of copyright.
But please note the article is a polemic, but is very interesting, as is the discussion in the comments after the article. It is a few years old now but could have been written today. http://questioncopyright.org/promise Last edited by pdurrant; 01-08-2018 at 08:40 AM. Reason: fixed URL |
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I don't disagree with the over all point that copyright is mostly oriented towards distribution and the few big sellers, rather than the vast majority of authors. |
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Just to be clear I understand this correctly. Are you saying that the author would break copyright law if they give you a free copy of his article?
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