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12-01-2018, 06:58 PM | #16 | ||
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Interesting selection, not where I thought this theme was going to go. I have recently read both of Charlie's nominations (one this year, one last) so I don't really want to second them although they are both good. I've also read the Left Hand of Darkness, many years ago, but may still second it. Depends on if I can find a good alternative for what I was going to nominate*.
Here's some more information for Embassytown, which I will second. Embassytown by China Miéville Goodreads | Amazon ($7.99) Pages: 345 | Published: 2011 Quote:
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Solaris by Stanislaw Lem The original 1960s translation was from French instead of directly from Polish which was a "very poor" translation in Lem's opinion. The book is still considered a science fiction masterpiece and is on many people's "best of" lists for science fiction. There have been 3 movie versions (2 English, 1 Russian). A new translation was made around 2011 that captures the original better. Unfortunately that translation, by Bill Johnston, only appears to be available from Amazon and Audible due to some rights issues. I was unable to find the new translation at Kobo or B&N but I rarely use them so maybe someone else would have better luck? If so, I would nominate this book. Last edited by Dazrin; 12-01-2018 at 08:04 PM. Reason: clarification |
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12-01-2018, 07:38 PM | #17 | |
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That is: "lost in translation" would typically mean that the translation failed or was insufficient. So to meet the literal interpretation of the theme we would have to pick out poorly translated works - perhaps The Three Musketeers for example , or Journey to the Centre of the Earth where they couldn't even get the title right. Of course, I imagine most people choosing translations will be bending the theme so that "lost" is interpreted in the sense of "lost in a good book". I thought my nomination was the more literal interpretation of the theme. |
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12-01-2018, 07:52 PM | #18 | |
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12-02-2018, 02:39 PM | #19 | |
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12-02-2018, 03:24 PM | #20 | |
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A second nomination: The Time In Between (alternate title: The Seamstress) by Maria Duenas, translated by Daniel Hahn (2011, 626 pp).
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Amazon U.S., $13.99 Amazon Canada, CA $7.99 Amazon UK, £3.99 Amazon Australia, AU $12.99 Kobo U.S., $13.99 Kobo Canada, CA $12.99 Kobo UK, £3.99 Kobo Australia, AU $12.99 Also available as audiobook. Can be borrowed through Overdrive (e-book and audiobook), RB Digital (audiobook), and Scribd (e-book and audiobook). Overdrive also has the e-book in the original Spanish. |
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12-02-2018, 03:35 PM | #21 |
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I've added the links for my earlier nomination Every Man Dies Alone.
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12-02-2018, 04:54 PM | #22 |
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I've been informed that The Bat has been a selection of the MRBC in 2014, making it ineligible now. Given that, please remove it from consideration. A good book, and worth the read, but not eligible for consideration this time around. (Oh, and I'll take my ticket back, too. )
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12-02-2018, 05:09 PM | #23 |
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Well, I know I don't particularly want to read anything WWII right now, so that's going to limit my choices. And while I'm a bit put off by the several references to "Kafkaesque" in the reviews, Embassytown by China Miéville does, at least, sound interesting, so now that I have one of my tickets back, I'll use it to second Embassytown.
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12-02-2018, 07:23 PM | #24 |
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Is this a nomination? Dazrin has seconded it.
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12-02-2018, 07:36 PM | #25 |
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12-02-2018, 07:48 PM | #26 |
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Dazrin is very good at sorting us out!
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12-02-2018, 08:04 PM | #27 |
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This is one of the things I like about the Buss translation of Monte Cristo - Buss's own comments about translation and the role of the translator. Your comments on the "ageing" of translations vs originals has me intrigued. I only have one book I can test that on, so I shall keep Kipling's19th-century Jungle Book on hand while I work through Ajay Anand's 21st-century Hindi translation to see how they stack up, thanks.
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12-02-2018, 08:18 PM | #28 | |
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I would like to nominate The Leopard by Giuseppe Tomasi di Lampedusa. From Kobo:
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327 pages Kobo prices: $US9.99, $C13.99, $A14,99, $NZ20.34, £3.99. (Some of these prices are a bit eye-watering, but people may be prepared to travel. I would also expect the book to be widely available in libraries.) |
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12-02-2018, 08:51 PM | #29 | |
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It does sound like an interesting story. It's aggravating to note that the NZ price (exchange-adjusted) is roughly one-third more than the US price. |
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12-02-2018, 09:08 PM | #30 |
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Yes, apparently freighting all those electrons to the Antipodes is very expensive. Maybe electrons spin backwards down here like everything else, and so it costs extra.
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