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Old 04-05-2021, 10:08 AM   #151
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Most reviews of Sanderson's completion were positive after Jordan sort of lost his way in later books. In that case I guess it was a good thing. I only read the first one and didn't pick up the other 14....
Yes, Sanderson;s completion was very good. I liked them more than Sanderson's original works. I've expressed the view before that Jordon was very much in need of a firm editor to keep him on track. It was commonly held that after the first couple of books, every other book was just filler that didn't move the story along.
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Old 04-05-2021, 11:25 AM   #152
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Maybe it should have been a 4 or 5 book series and the publisher wanted 12 and then it wandered.
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Old 03-12-2022, 02:35 PM   #153
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Old 03-12-2022, 05:15 PM   #154
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Martin also outlined the other book projects on his plate that aren't The Winds of Winter, telling frustrated fans desperate for him to finally finish the sixth book, "I know, for many of you out there, only one of those projects matters. I am sorry for you. They ALL matter to me."
Does anyone else read his message to his fans as, “Sucks to be you”?

I just find it hard to believe that anyone cares anymore. It’s over.
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Old 03-12-2022, 06:31 PM   #155
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Does anyone else read his message to his fans as, “Sucks to be you”?

I just find it hard to believe that anyone cares anymore. It’s over.
Yeah, I stopped caring years ago. Moved on. There are so many good books out there, no reason to cling to the eternally unfinished ASOIAF.
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Old 03-12-2022, 07:11 PM   #156
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I look at this ongoing saga and think, thank God I never started this series.
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Old 03-13-2022, 05:16 AM   #157
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Yeah, I stopped caring years ago. Moved on. There are so many good books out there, no reason to cling to the eternally unfinished ASOIAF.
Me too. Books 1-3 great, 4 so-so, 5 I put down about 1/3 of the way through. Why would anyone care about book 6, there is supposedly a book 7 coming too. Will it take him another 10+ years to do that too? Why bother.
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Old 03-13-2022, 11:26 AM   #158
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I look at this ongoing saga and think, thank God I never started this series.
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I never cared for it, period. Never read them and didn't watch the series, either - if there was one.

Give me Mervyn Peake! Or, for the child in me, Lin Carter!

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If this series ever gets finished, I may give it a go. But not until then.
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Old 03-14-2022, 08:05 AM   #160
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Yeah, I stopped caring years ago. Moved on.
It appears you share this sentiment with GRRM.

I think he would get a lot less questions, which obviously annoys him, if he published proper progress reports like Sanderson, instead of "I've been writing some. Less than a lot, more than a little. Also, here are some other things which I find way more exciting! Boho you!".
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I think he would get a lot less questions, which obviously annoys him,
I suspect he loves the attention myself. He’s a big boy; he could just ignore them, not pay attention to the press and social media, not show up for conventions; just write.

I also think the issue with his writing is that he finds it far easier to create and expand than to pursue a tight plot. So he’ll keep churning out more and more new stuff which is what he likes doing these days. The readers are not the only ones over ASOIAF. But I also don’t think authors owe their readers anything; the reciprocal attitude for readers is not to be so invested in an author, especially not to feed their ego. Buy the books, read the stuff. If no one paid any attention to GRRM’s witterings he might buckle down at that.
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Or he could do as many other well known authors do...

They have another author write the book and their name so it sells...
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I suspect he loves the attention myself. He’s a big boy; he could just ignore them, not pay attention to the press and social media, not show up for conventions; just write.

I also think the issue with his writing is that he finds it far easier to create and expand than to pursue a tight plot. So he’ll keep churning out more and more new stuff which is what he likes doing these days. The readers are not the only ones over ASOIAF. But I also don’t think authors owe their readers anything; the reciprocal attitude for readers is not to be so invested in an author, especially not to feed their ego. Buy the books, read the stuff. If no one paid any attention to GRRM’s witterings he might buckle down at that.
I seem to remember he himself admitted years ago that he tends to lose interest when writing a longer series. I believe that's exactly what his problem is. He's just no longer interested in writing ASOIAF and hasn't been for many years.
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GRRM is a television writer who briefly (and mistakenly) believed he could write a series of novels (and didn't do badly for the first few). Then got mad when people called him on it. The end.

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Old 03-14-2022, 01:48 PM   #165
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GRRM is a television writer who briefly (and mistakenly) believed he could write a series of novels (and didn't do badly for the first few). Then got mad when people called him on it. The end.
Yeah. He should have wrapped it up with 3-4 books or stuck to stand-alone novels, anthologies and the like. He's no series writer, that's obvious by now, even though the first 3 books of ASOIAF are very good. Unfortunately the first 3 were all he had the momentum for.

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