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Old 08-30-2011, 10:56 PM   #541
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since I also smoke pipe and tried cigars the form factor isn't a problem.
from my POV its still a light item. but if you look for weight and balance you probably won't like it.
why I wanted a try before was that as far as I read its pure luck wether you get one that leaks or stays clean - and when they start to leak and you get half a drop of liquid (or more) on your tongue because of that you get too much of everything - taste, nico, whatever: it happened to me and I had 'nuff. I went to wash my tongue and grabbed something smokeable.
As far as I read the previous models which you fill "zippo-like" are even more prone to leak and mess.

so for me it is still beta-tech. to weak in taste and too much mess in handling.
I might risk a look again when they change the hardware.
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It is a Solarflare 2012, which is actually a rebranded DSE-103....

...The trick with ecigs is to realize that the nicotine delivery is not the same as a cigarette - it takes a little bit to build up rather than the instant nic hit of a real cigarette. An ecig needs to be puffed a little differently than a real cig (known as an "analog" in the vaping world) so there's an adjustment there.

With that said, YES, it does satisfy me....
I have a couple of Encore ecigs that I bought from a local Smoke Shack that I use with some flavorings I purchased on-line. They are considerably different from analog. I find that with the Encore, when first charged with fluid they tend to be harsh, and quickly seem to go bland. Learning just how hard to draw is a challenge. Too hard and I cough, not hard enough, and I feel I'm not getting anything. Mostly I smoke them in the car. They just don't do it for me.

It's a dirty little secret I'm sharing here for the first time, but back when the Book Club read The Mysterious Island by Jules Verne last year, the descriptions in that work of the sailor who sorely missed his beloved tobacco on the island, and his delight upon discovering that his stranded fellows had secretly cultivated a crop to surprise him, were so overpowering that I just had to smoke my first cigarette in years. I admitted that, but what I haven't admitted until now is how that cigarette tasted so good that a week or so later I had another. Then another. Then...

Damn that Jules Verne. I hope he's cleaning porta-potties in Hell.

And damn American Spirit for making cigarettes that taste so good. But at least they're additive-free.
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Christa - tt may help (add), when you exhale the vapor trough nose - more nicotine extraction from the vapour + the most what we percieve as taste is scent.

Tom - you are so right its the chem additives that ruin it.
this is why i prefer pipe tobacco mixes done @the shop directly.

a propos how that tasted so good: I got (as a gift) twice in my life a Monte Christo cigar. *sigh* If there is something making an otherwise frugal person wish he were rich enough for luxury goods on a regular basis than those ones...
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Old 08-31-2011, 12:46 PM   #544
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why I wanted a try before was that as far as I read its pure luck wether you get one that leaks or stays clean - and when they start to leak and you get half a drop of liquid (or more) on your tongue because of that you get too much of everything - taste, nico, whatever
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so for me it is still beta-tech. to weak in taste and too much mess in handling.
I might risk a look again when they change the hardware.
It really depends. Look at the 510, for example. There are dozens of companies manufacturing 510-compatible parts, not just the original, Joye. As a result, quality can be erratic. Those who are using cartos instead of atty+cart combos generally find one good supplier and stick with it. My 103 only leaks if I overfill the carts. I've heard that Boge cartos have a pretty good rep, so if I switch to a 510-compatible model I may start using those instead of regular carts.

The industry is fairly new, with PVs only really taking off in the last couple of years, but I find that places like e-cigarette-forum.com are great for getting recommendations for quality vendors and equipment. Just something to keep in mind if you decide to try them out again.

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I have a couple of Encore ecigs that I bought from a local Smoke Shack that I use with some flavorings I purchased on-line. They are considerably different from analog. I find that with the Encore, when first charged with fluid they tend to be harsh, and quickly seem to go bland. Learning just how hard to draw is a challenge. Too hard and I cough, not hard enough, and I feel I'm not getting anything. Mostly I smoke them in the car. They just don't do it for me.
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I admitted that, but what I haven't admitted until now is how that cigarette tasted so good that a week or so later I had another. Then another. Then...

Damn that Jules Verne. I hope he's cleaning porta-potties in Hell.

And damn American Spirit for making cigarettes that taste so good. But at least they're additive-free.
Thank you for sharing your confession. I have to remember to stay away from that book!

My 103 has a pretty gradual fall off after switching to a fresh batt/cart, so I don't really notice the problem you've experienced with that. I like having a model with an LED tip because it gives me visual feedback on my draw. For the auto models (no switch, they heat up when you draw) it sometimes helps to take a quick puff to pre-heat the atomizer first, then take a regular draw. Manual (switch) units are supposed to be better in that regard, but I haven't had the chance to try one yet.

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Christa - tt may help (add), when you exhale the vapor trough nose - more nicotine extraction from the vapour + the most what we percieve as taste is scent.
As my body is detoxing from analogs, my sinuses are extremely sensitive right now. I've found that while a nasal exhale does help getting my nic dose faster, it also can start me sneezing.
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Thanks! It's good to be back, although I quickly realized I now need to avoid certain areas - there seems to be a whole new batch of contention happening in a few places on MR, and the last thing I need right now is stress.

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I've been good! Definitely a lot... especially if you like free books! Waiting for my new ereader (Sony T1) to show up so that I can spend more money on books. Why do I feel the need to get more. It is not as if I don't have enough!! New toy - new stuff to put on it.
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Free books are always good, especially right now. I'm waiting to hear about a job I applied for, so maybe that will change soon. :-) Actually, free will still be good, just not my only option.

T1, eh? I've been hearing about those. I might check 'em out. I love my Kindle but I love gadgets in general so if I get the job I'll be wanting a new gadget. I think I love the comparison shopping process almost as much as actually buying.

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I've talked about it that much, huh?

If I actually thought about it, I would have said hi on GoodReads, but I don't chat there as much as I do here; I'm pretty single minded there. I'm glad you're back here.
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I've talked about it that much, huh?

If I actually thought about it, I would have said hi on GoodReads, but I don't chat there as much as I do here; I'm pretty single minded there. I'm glad you're back here.
No, you're just one of the few of my friends who have read them and mentioned them, that's all. And no worries about GR, I haven't been there much either until the last few days. I'm in the process of completely redoing my GR shelves using the calibre plugin (after completely redoing my calibre library as well). I've got all but the last 100 or so re-shelved.

It's no coincidence that when life gets stressful, my OCD kicks in and screams "Let me organize something!!!" LOL I've even offered to organize the ebook library of the guy I've been seeing. It was kind of sad. "Please? I don't even need to do it there, just put them on a jump drive!" Unfortunately, he neither cares how organized his ebooks are nor realizes my current need to exert control over digital files.
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