RFO BASIC! for Android - Page 2

ivanjt · 06-08-2011, 04:10 PM

Continuing the off topic theme, I have to say that, in my experience, how people view projects is very dependant on how old they are. Those drought up in the digital age, for the most part, only think in digital answers whereas those of us that cut on teeth on electronics in the 50s tend to think in discrete components but have learned to use 'that which does the job best'.

There are, of course, exceptions as always in life.

Quote:

if you can learn to program an Arduino board you can learn enough about electronics to know when you need or don't need a uC

You would think so Mark, but it isn't always so as my interviewing potential electronics engineers has shown.

KeithSink · 06-09-2011, 01:55 PM

I'm currently developing my games in Monkey. It's a cross platform that supports HTML5, Android, iOS, Mac and PC. It's still early but updates are coming out regularly and the guy who writes it has a track record of compilers going back to the Amiga days. You can find more about it here: http://www.monkeycoder.co.nz/

mr_ed · 06-09-2011, 02:23 PM

FORTH forever!

-- Ed

emusan · 06-09-2011, 02:31 PM

lol brainf*ck for the WIN!!!!

Last_of_the_PEs · 06-09-2011, 05:01 PM

Oh yeah, FORTH. We need a language still harnessed to arbitrary code page sizes dictated by ancient hardware! I liked the stack though -- got used to using it with HP calculators.

emusan · 06-09-2011, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Last_of_the_PEs

Oh yeah, FORTH. We need a language still harnessed to arbitrary code page sizes dictated by ancient hardware! I liked the stack though -- got used to using it with HP calculators.

Couldn't you also use a number as a variable name? Might be something else though...

kennyminot · 06-09-2011, 07:11 PM

I don't know what the hell you guys are talking about, but Mark's photo is SUPER CREEPY. That hand could do some serious tickling.

mr_ed · 06-10-2011, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Last_of_the_PEs

I liked the stack though -- got used to using it with HP calculators.

I still remember the HP-35 with fondness. Crap. Where did those 40 years go?

BASIC, on the other hand, most strongly takes me back to Radio Shack's Color Computer and Model 100.

-- Ed

Mark Rehorst · 06-11-2011, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kennyminot

I don't know what the hell you guys are talking about, but Mark's photo is SUPER CREEPY. That hand could do some serious tickling.

You can view/DL the full sized image here:
http://mark.rehorst.com/Bug_Photos/fractal_hands_c.jpg

MR

5thWiggle · 06-13-2011, 09:03 AM

New version of RFO BASIC! out. V1.11 now supports user defined functions, and has a GrabUrl command which will load the source of a web page into a variable.

Last_of_the_PEs · 06-13-2011, 07:00 PM

Does anyone know if you pass variables to functions by reference or explicitly? And if the function can alter the value of any variable or just those being passed? I'm not clear on how tightly this BASIC adheres to structured programming rules.

I wish there was code that used all these features that I could reverse-engineer. I learn best that way. No matter how the documentation is structured, there is invariably a dozen ways to form the syntax and only one works. Seeing it used successfully cuts out all the frustration.

5thWiggle · 06-13-2011, 07:11 PM

From the help file on the website:

"More about function parameters and
variables.

All variables within an instantiation
of a function are private to that
instantiation of the function. A
variable in the main program named
v$ is not the same variable v$ within
a function. Furthermore, a variable named
v$ in an recursively called function is
not the same v$ in the calling function."

So vars must be passed by value, not reference and you can only modify vars within the function, and not affect vars in the main program.

Last_of_the_PEs · 06-13-2011, 07:28 PM

Awwww. Too bad. Still, that's the difference between functions and procedures. I wonder if a function can return an array?

According to posts on the forum of that BASIC!, the gr.touch functions return a boolean, and coordinates, so they do multi-returns.

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06-09-2011, 01:55 PM	#17
KeithSink Junior Member Posts: 1 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: Pocket Edge	I'm currently developing my games in Monkey. It's a cross platform that supports HTML5, Android, iOS, Mac and PC. It's still early but updates are coming out regularly and the guy who writes it has a track record of compilers going back to the Amiga days. You can find more about it here: http://www.monkeycoder.co.nz/

06-09-2011, 02:23 PM	#18
mr_ed Connoisseur Posts: 53 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Denver, CO, USA Device: been e-reading since Handspring's first PDA	FORTH forever! -- Ed

06-09-2011, 02:31 PM	#19
emusan lol Posts: 472 Karma: 1031 Join Date: May 2011 Device: eDGe	lol brainf*ck for the WIN!!!!

06-09-2011, 05:01 PM	#20
Last_of_the_PEs Groupie Posts: 192 Karma: 34 Join Date: May 2011 Device: Entourage PE	Oh yeah, FORTH. We need a language still harnessed to arbitrary code page sizes dictated by ancient hardware! I liked the stack though -- got used to using it with HP calculators.

06-09-2011, 07:11 PM	#22
kennyminot Groupie Posts: 183 Karma: 90022 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Louisville, KY Device: HTC EVO View 4G, HTC Wildfire S, Asus T91MT	I don't know what the hell you guys are talking about, but Mark's photo is SUPER CREEPY. That hand could do some serious tickling.

06-13-2011, 09:03 AM	#25
5thWiggle Benevolent Evil Lord Posts: 1,704 Karma: 48339466 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Evil Canada (We all have goatees!) Device: Galaxy Note 8.0, Galaxy Note, iPad Mini, PocketEdge(retired)	New version of RFO BASIC! out. V1.11 now supports user defined functions, and has a GrabUrl command which will load the source of a web page into a variable.

06-13-2011, 07:00 PM	#26
Last_of_the_PEs Groupie Posts: 192 Karma: 34 Join Date: May 2011 Device: Entourage PE	Does anyone know if you pass variables to functions by reference or explicitly? And if the function can alter the value of any variable or just those being passed? I'm not clear on how tightly this BASIC adheres to structured programming rules. I wish there was code that used all these features that I could reverse-engineer. I learn best that way. No matter how the documentation is structured, there is invariably a dozen ways to form the syntax and only one works. Seeing it used successfully cuts out all the frustration.

06-13-2011, 07:11 PM	#27
5thWiggle Benevolent Evil Lord Posts: 1,704 Karma: 48339466 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Evil Canada (We all have goatees!) Device: Galaxy Note 8.0, Galaxy Note, iPad Mini, PocketEdge(retired)	From the help file on the website: "More about function parameters and variables. All variables within an instantiation of a function are private to that instantiation of the function. A variable in the main program named v$ is not the same variable v$ within a function. Furthermore, a variable named v$ in an recursively called function is not the same v$ in the calling function." So vars must be passed by value, not reference and you can only modify vars within the function, and not affect vars in the main program.

06-13-2011, 07:28 PM	#28
Last_of_the_PEs Groupie Posts: 192 Karma: 34 Join Date: May 2011 Device: Entourage PE	Awwww. Too bad. Still, that's the difference between functions and procedures. I wonder if a function can return an array? According to posts on the forum of that BASIC!, the gr.touch functions return a boolean, and coordinates, so they do multi-returns.