Register Guidelines E-Books Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book General > Reading Recommendations > Book Clubs

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 05-20-2018, 11:27 AM   #46
CRussel
Grand Sorcerer
CRussel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.CRussel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.CRussel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.CRussel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.CRussel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.CRussel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.CRussel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.CRussel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.CRussel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.CRussel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.CRussel ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
CRussel's Avatar
 
Posts: 9,532
Karma: 56509032
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Sunshine Coast, BC
Device: Kindle Voyage,Kindle PW, Fire HD 8.9, Fire HD8
Quote:
Originally Posted by issybird View Post
Popular history serves a legitimate purpose and ought not to be dismissed as junk (no one's claiming this is academic history) and it's certainly not a historical novel. I also think the phrase "emotionally driven" is a loaded term tending to be used to disparage woman writers. As for the dial painters being useful characters, well, of course they were! There's nothing inherently wrong with telling the human side of a story. Raw numbers in the end don't convey the suffering of the individuals as much as pertinent details from individual accounts.

I think of history books as being on a continuum - popular to serious to academic. There is a point to popular history and one of them is readability; I can't say the paragraphs you cited were what I'd call page-turners. In fact, Radium Girls appears to be heavily researched and we've already discussed and deplored the author's tendency to go too far in her stage-setting, especially as she had the information from the personal accounts and a knack for telling a story. The book should have been better, but it's far from worthless.
I, for one, am glad of this book, and the look into the history of the luminescent dial industry and its victims. Yes, I realize that it's not a pure history book, and I think we've pretty much beat that horse to death. All of us wish the author had stuck to the known facts. BUT, that being said, I'm not about to call it junk, and I don't think using emotionally laden terms to make a point about a somewhat emotionally laden book really does anyone a service and agree about the phrase "emotionally driven" and its use.
CRussel is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2018, 01:27 PM   #47
gmw
cacoethes scribendi
gmw ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.gmw ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.gmw ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.gmw ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.gmw ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.gmw ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.gmw ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.gmw ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.gmw ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.gmw ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.gmw ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
gmw's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,803
Karma: 88073705
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Australia
Device: Kobo Aura One & H2Ov2, Sony PRS-650
As is probably obvious, I tend to agree with AnotherCat regarding the quality of this book.

I don't mind if historical fiction that does a bit of bending of the facts here and there, or if it's selective about which parts its wants to tell. It's for the good of the story. But I have much higher expectations of a book that presents itself as non-fiction. I expect the author to make up their mind: are they telling me a story or are they telling me the facts? When you make me guess at which parts are true, as this book does, I might as well be reading fiction, at least then I might be in for a happy ending.

The book is obviously well researched, we can tell that by the various quotes the author inserts in support of the embellishments, but it also appears to be so selective as to be deliberately distorting. So far the book would have me believe that almost every girl that worked in the industry is going to die as a direct result. The few paragraphs that AnotherCat quoted paint a very different picture.

Having the facts doesn't stop me having sympathy, and I don't need the author to paint villains in order to understand the frustrating time these women had in getting anyone to take any notice of what was happening. Indeed, having the facts might help understand how it came to be like that.
gmw is offline   Reply With Quote
Advert
Old 05-20-2018, 06:00 PM   #48
AnotherCat
Me
AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 1,097
Karma: 12135808
Join Date: May 2012
Device: Anything
Quote:
Originally Posted by latepaul View Post
No she doesn't. The scientist is in Paris travelling to London "across the sea". So the English channel not the Atlantic.
She actually does not say in the Prologue that the scientist is or was in Paris, perhaps one could infer it from the subtitle of the Prologue but for those of us familiar with the history that subtitle would be assumed to refer to the Curies about who the Prologue makes most comment - they lived in Paris in 1901 (and for most of their working lives).

If Moore was referring to a simple crossing of the channel perhaps she should have said so, it is hardly a journey across the sea, nor really a travel to that foreign shore, through every second of his journey. Even in 1901 it was hardly a "journey", whereas crossing the Atlantic was.

This is just an example where she gets herself in trouble by over egging things for dramatic effect to meet her agenda.

Last edited by AnotherCat; 05-20-2018 at 06:07 PM.
AnotherCat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2018, 06:22 PM   #49
issybird
o saeclum infacetum
issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
issybird's Avatar
 
Posts: 11,619
Karma: 120210325
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: New England
Device: H2O, Glo HD, Aura One
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnotherCat View Post
This is just an example where she gets herself in trouble by over egging things for dramatic effect to meet her agenda.
By agenda, do you mean that the point of this book was to show the human suffering, the toll taken on young women whom the radium companies had ingest radium in the interest of efficiency at the same time that the male scientists they employed were garbed in lead aprons? Alrighty, then. No argument.

Agenda is yet another loaded term. There's no failure in conception to have the focus be on the women.
issybird is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2018, 06:28 PM   #50
AnotherCat
Me
AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 1,097
Karma: 12135808
Join Date: May 2012
Device: Anything
Quote:
Originally Posted by issybird View Post
...I also think the phrase "emotionally driven" is a loaded term tending to be used to disparage woman writers...
I think your reference in that manner to my use of that phrase is rather of an insult. You do not know me at all and to make such an assumption of me is pretty unfortunate in my opinion.

Perhaps you did not notice that I made special effort to point out about Clark's book that she is also quite expansive on the role of women and their vulnerability in work at the time. Nor perhaps are you aware that the full title and subtitle of Clark's book is Radium Girls~Women and Industrial Health Reform 1910-1935.

So the book I have read, and obviously from my comments have a lot of respect for, is written by a woman with an emphasis on women in industry, yet you think I am using "a loaded term tending to be used to disparage woman writers" when referring to Moore's book. Clark does not while writing her book, however, fall into the sexist tribal hole that you may have.

Last edited by AnotherCat; 05-20-2018 at 06:30 PM.
AnotherCat is offline   Reply With Quote
Advert
Old 05-20-2018, 06:37 PM   #51
issybird
o saeclum infacetum
issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
issybird's Avatar
 
Posts: 11,619
Karma: 120210325
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: New England
Device: H2O, Glo HD, Aura One
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnotherCat View Post
I think your reference in that manner to my use of that phrase is rather of an insult. You do not know me at all and to make such an assumption of me is pretty unfortunate in my opinion.

Perhaps you did not notice that I made special effort to point out about Clark's book that she is also quite expansive on the role of women and their vulnerability in work at the time. Nor perhaps are you aware that the full title and subtitle of Clark's book is Radium Girls~Women and Industrial Health Reform 1910-1935.

So the book I have read, and obviously from my comments have a lot of respect for, is written by a woman with an emphasis on women in industry, yet you think I am using "a loaded term tending to be used to disparage woman writers" when referring to Moore's book. Clark does not while writing her book, however, fall into the sexist tribal hole that you may have.
I think, and I stand by that, that the phrase "emotionally driven" is unfortunate. It smacks of far too many attacks on women and attempts to remove their agency; you can't claim neutrality for a term which has been overused in such condemnations as, subject to their emotions, overly emotional, and so forth. It would have been best eschewed.
issybird is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2018, 06:42 PM   #52
AnotherCat
Me
AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 1,097
Karma: 12135808
Join Date: May 2012
Device: Anything
Quote:
Originally Posted by issybird View Post
By agenda, do you mean that the point of this book was to show the human suffering, the toll taken on young women whom the radium companies had ingest radium in the interest of efficiency at the same time that the male scientists they employed were garbed in lead aprons? Alrighty, then. No argument.

Agenda is yet another loaded term. There's no failure in conception to have the focus be on the women.
My goodness there you go again.

I think most know that there are a lot of agendas writers can have in their work, but I'm out of here because apparently one (perhaps only white males) cannot make a comment without it being distorted into the worst possible light of being sexist.

My farewell comment is that I hope those with a genuine and balanced interest in the matter read Claudia Clark's book.

EDIT
: And there you go #51 yet again - putting the world (and me) into sexist tribes. Goodbye.

Last edited by AnotherCat; 05-20-2018 at 06:51 PM.
AnotherCat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2018, 06:46 PM   #53
Bookpossum
Snoozing in the sun
Bookpossum ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bookpossum ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bookpossum ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bookpossum ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bookpossum ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bookpossum ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bookpossum ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bookpossum ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bookpossum ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bookpossum ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bookpossum ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Bookpossum's Avatar
 
Posts: 9,448
Karma: 96177989
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Device: iPad Mini, Kobo Touch
Hey, can we lighten up a bit? This is a book club, not a university tutorial.

ETA: I posted the above comment before I saw the last one from AnotherCat. I think it is for the best that he has decided to leave, as I don’t think this is the place for such combative comments.

Now, back to our discussion of Moore’s book.

I did appreciate the inclusion of the photographs of a number of the people of whom Moore wrote. It gave a glimpse into their lives to see them, though of course some images were of better quality than others.

Last edited by Bookpossum; 05-20-2018 at 07:19 PM.
Bookpossum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2018, 06:55 PM   #54
AnotherCat
Me
AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.AnotherCat ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 1,097
Karma: 12135808
Join Date: May 2012
Device: Anything
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bookpossum View Post
Hey, can we lighten up a bit? This is a book club, not a university tutorial.
Sorry Bookpossum but I will not take that sexist tribal tripe directed at me from anyone.
AnotherCat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2018, 07:30 PM   #55
issybird
o saeclum infacetum
issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
issybird's Avatar
 
Posts: 11,619
Karma: 120210325
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: New England
Device: H2O, Glo HD, Aura One
All I'm saying is that it's best to avoid language with a history; it's possible to make exactly the same argument but with neutral language; the result is a more powerful argument since it's devoid of possible cultural implications. Remember that we're all pretty much agreed that the book is flawed.

"There you go again" also has unfortunate connotations for Americans of a certain age; in any case, on its own merits it's a put down. In the interest of civil discourse, it would be better to keep this impersonal.
issybird is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2018, 07:33 PM   #56
issybird
o saeclum infacetum
issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.issybird ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
issybird's Avatar
 
Posts: 11,619
Karma: 120210325
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: New England
Device: H2O, Glo HD, Aura One
If Another Cat wants to make another comment, he's welcome; otherwise, I think as Bookpossum suggested it would be best to get back to the book itself.
issybird is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2018, 11:09 PM   #57
Catlady
Grand Sorcerer
Catlady ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Catlady ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Catlady ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Catlady ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Catlady ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Catlady ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Catlady ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Catlady ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Catlady ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Catlady ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Catlady ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Catlady's Avatar
 
Posts: 5,815
Karma: 27285429
Join Date: Oct 2010
Device: Kindle Fire, AGPTek Bluetooth Clip, jetBook Lite
I was not bothered by what some of you have seen as "embellishments"; frankly, I'm not sure I would have consciously noticed any on my own. I did think the author sometimes tended toward purple prose, but that may have been exacerbated by the narration of the audiobook.

The book seemed to me to be firmly in the tradition of the nonfiction novel, and I don't have any significant problem with that subgenre. I didn't read The Radium Girls to understand the specific scientific, medical, or legal issues about radium and workplace safety; I read it to learn about people and how they were affected, what they endured and how they coped.

My main takeaway is that women in the workplace have been and continue to be exploited. The men in their laboratories had protective gear; the women, nothing--they didn't matter. Management lied and denied and put profit above all else. (Beyond the safety issues, I was outraged that the women were being paid for piecework, not a regular hourly wage.)

Last year I read a book about the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire (Triangle, by David Von Drehle). The bosses ignored basic safety regulations, even keeping doors locked (to prevent possible pilfering), and when fire broke out, more than a hundred women--mostly young immigrants--perished because of those locks. In court proceedings, the bosses attacked the credibility of the survivors, lied and obfuscated, avoided criminal conviction but ended up paying minimal damages in a civil suit. The specific circumstances were very different, but as I was reading about the dial painters, I kept thinking about the Triangle victims and how cheaply held were the lives of the women workers in both situations.

It makes me very angry.
Catlady is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2018, 11:33 PM   #58
gmw
cacoethes scribendi
gmw ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.gmw ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.gmw ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.gmw ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.gmw ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.gmw ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.gmw ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.gmw ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.gmw ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.gmw ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.gmw ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
gmw's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,803
Karma: 88073705
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Australia
Device: Kobo Aura One & H2Ov2, Sony PRS-650
Quote:
Originally Posted by issybird View Post
By agenda, do you mean that the point of this book was to show the human suffering, the toll taken on young women whom the radium companies had ingest radium in the interest of efficiency at the same time that the male scientists they employed were garbed in lead aprons? [...]
This is one area where I believe the book is distorting things - and it seems quite deliberate. What you say is literally true, but like the book, it's misleading. The known danger at the time - direct harm to the skin etc. - was only experienced by the (male) scientists in direct contact with large volumes or concentrations. The lead aprons protected against this - but you will notice that it wasn't complete protection, Sabin himself ends up radioactive, so it's not like he fully understood the risks either. If the dial-painter (women) had been getting burned lips as a result of their contact then I imagine they and their employers would have been considerably more circumspect. But as it stood in the early years, people actually thought this stuff was good for them (lots of things are bad in concentration and good in the right doses, there was no obvious contradiction here).

There certainly are issues of sexism in this situation - even down to the fact that it was just women hired as dial-painters even though there was good money in it. (Quite strange that men didn't grab this lucrative opportunity for themselves.) But the book distorts the issues to such an extent that it becomes difficult to speak of it without raising those flags that so recently caused heated discussion.

What happens after June 1924 (which I am still reading about) is a different matter to went before. From the time of the Drinkers' report the possible risks (if not the true probability) should have been apparent - although I suspect they were not nearly so clear or inarguable as Moore would have has believe (here she is doing herself a disservice because I am trusting what she tells me less and less). But even if the risks are only suspected some precautions would seem prudent (we get half-hearted attempts at stopping lip-pointing, but much more was indicated). Failure to act after this time is - it seems to me - negligent (although having so many people muddying the water would have made it difficult); the failure to act before this time seems quite understandable in context.

Acknowledging that doesn't mean I think the the women suffered any less, and some form of aid should have been available to them (yet another aspect that hasn't changed a century later), but it should not have been necessary to establish wrong-doing as part of getting that aid. Where does this insistence that it must be someone's fault come from? Sometimes __it happens! Without the confrontational nature of blame, some of these situations would be more quickly resolved; people could cooperate rather than ducking for cover to avoid blame.
gmw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2018, 07:15 AM   #59
latepaul
Wizard
latepaul ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.latepaul ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.latepaul ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.latepaul ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.latepaul ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.latepaul ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.latepaul ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.latepaul ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.latepaul ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.latepaul ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.latepaul ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
latepaul's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,101
Karma: 9488888
Join Date: Dec 2011
Device: a variety (mostly kindles and kobos)
@Anothercat - conversation has moved on, but all I'll say is that when I read it it was clear to me Moore was talking about a trip across the channel.
latepaul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2018, 08:04 AM   #60
Bookpossum
Snoozing in the sun
Bookpossum ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bookpossum ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bookpossum ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bookpossum ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bookpossum ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bookpossum ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bookpossum ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bookpossum ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bookpossum ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bookpossum ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Bookpossum ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Bookpossum's Avatar
 
Posts: 9,448
Karma: 96177989
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Device: iPad Mini, Kobo Touch
Quote:
Originally Posted by Catlady View Post
Last year I read a book about the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire (Triangle, by David Von Drehle). The bosses ignored basic safety regulations, even keeping doors locked (to prevent possible pilfering), and when fire broke out, more than a hundred women--mostly young immigrants--perished because of those locks. In court proceedings, the bosses attacked the credibility of the survivors, lied and obfuscated, avoided criminal conviction but ended up paying minimal damages in a civil suit. The specific circumstances were very different, but as I was reading about the dial painters, I kept thinking about the Triangle victims and how cheaply held were the lives of the women workers in both situations.

It makes me very angry.
To follow on from Catlady's reference to the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire, I have just been watching a documentary about the use of Benzene and N Hexane (I think that's what the second chemical was called) in the making of cell phones in China, including iPhones for Apple plus other manufacturers as well. Once again, lowly workers with little knowledge or support who then became ill some years later with leukemia in the case of Benzene, and with nerve damage requiring years of treatment in the case of N Hexane. The film was made under cover by activists in China.

Sadly, things don't change all that much - I suppose we just move them offshore from the more affluent countries to the developing ones.
Bookpossum is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The 2018 Annual Reading Challenge Discussion Thread pdurrant Reading Recommendations 244 10-21-2018 01:55 AM
MobileRead January 2018 Discussion • Whose Body? by Dorothy L. Sayers issybird Book Clubs 90 03-11-2018 08:27 PM
Sweetser, Kate D.: Ten Girls From Dickens:. v1, 22 Feb 2008 nrapallo IMP Books 0 02-24-2008 09:02 AM
Sweetser, Kate D.: Ten Girls From Dickens:. v1, 22 Feb 2008 Madam Broshkina Kindle Books 0 02-22-2008 05:25 PM
Sweetser, Kate D.: Ten Girls From Dickens:. v1, 22 Feb 2008 Madam Broshkina BBeB/LRF Books 0 02-22-2008 05:23 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:15 PM.


MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.