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01-29-2013, 07:07 AM | #17 | |
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And to quote some of our more dogmatic radio jockeys, "Why should we do anything like the rest of the world? They're a bunch of (bleep)ing Socialists/Communists! We're Capitalists and that means we always do everything better!" |
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01-29-2013, 07:21 AM | #18 | |
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I have a question regarding this logic (it's a fragment of what was quoted in the OP):
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01-29-2013, 07:23 AM | #19 |
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01-29-2013, 08:28 AM | #20 |
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The solution is simple. Do not purchase devices or services that do not explicitly exempt you from these conditions. If enough consumers boycott Big IP, they will mend their ways.
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I can understand the logic of making it illegal to purchase a heavily-subsidised SIM-locked phone, and then unlock it, so you can use it on a different network. That's basically fraud, when it comes down to it. I don't know if things are different in the US, but in the UK mobile phone market, very often expensive phones are heavily subsidised by the carrier.
But certainly it's wrong to prevent unlocking in cases where the phone is not subsidised. But then the question arises: how does the company carrying out the unlocking know whether or not the customer has the right to ask for it to be unlocked or not? |
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Buy a subsidised phone in the UK and you're hit with a 18 month contract that ensures they get back the subsidy. At the end of that term there's often a cheaper plan you can move to unless you accept a free upgrade, which is really just a new 18 month contract with a new subsidised phone. Want to cancel the contract after 6 months? You've to pay out the remaining 12 months there and then. It shouldn't matter one bit whether you cancel and pay the remainder and get the phone unlocked then move to a new provider OR you unlock yourself, move to a new provider AND continue to pay the remaining 12 months of your old contract in addition to the new one. Now if providers are offering contracts without a minimum term and also selling subsidised hardware, then that's their own fault really. If the law in the US doesn't allow a minimum contract term to claw back a subsidy, then that is what should be made into law, not making it illegal to unlock. Maybe there's more to the issue than I'm seeing? I just don't see the logic in making it illegal to unlock a device you own to use with different carriers or even to do more with it than the device originally allowed. Last edited by JoeD; 01-29-2013 at 11:32 AM. |
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Perhaps companies should only offer subsidised phones with a lengthy contract with substantial penalty clauses for early termination. Simple contract law can cover this situation perfectly well, without tying phones to a single network when there are no technical limitations.
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01-29-2013, 11:33 AM | #24 |
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The contracts and termination fees are how most of them have worked for years already.
My last several phones (at&t and verizon) had two year contract minimums with early termination fees. Last edited by kennyc; 01-29-2013 at 12:03 PM. |
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01-29-2013, 12:19 PM | #27 |
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In the UK you can get pay as you go phones tied to different carriers at different prices, so there is no contract to lock you in to, half a million seems a bit steep for unlocking it to change carrier though
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By the way, anyone ever notice an "irreparable damage if you violate this EULA" clause? Same thing. They want to leave people open for unlimited civil and criminal damages. Last edited by teh603; 01-29-2013 at 12:58 PM. |
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I doubt that applies in the U.S.
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